-Double Strike
-Arleigh Burke Destroyer can block creatures with flying or Islandwalk
-(2): Arleigh Burke Destroyer deals 5 damage to target creature or player (to represent cruise missiles).
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+3 Until your next turn whenever a creature attacks ~, ~ deals 3 damage to that creature. (Reload ammo)
-5 ~ Deals 5 damage to target craeture or player. (FIRE ALL MISSILES)
-15 ~ deals 20 damage to both players (nuke??)
Missiles:
Flight I: 90 cell Mk 41 Vertical Launching System (VLS)
Flights II and IIA: 96 cell Mk 41 VLS
BGM-109 Tomahawk
RIM-66M Standard medium range SAM (has an ASuW mode)[citation needed]
RIM-161 Standard Ballistic missile defense missile for Aegis BMD (15 ships as of March 2009[6])
RIM-162 ESSM SAM (DDG-79 onward)
RUM-139 Vertical Launch ASROC
RIM-174A Standard ERAM to be added in 2011
RGM-84 Harpoon SSM (not in Flight IIA units)[7]
Guns:
1 × 5-inch (127-mm)/62 Mk-45 Mod 1/2 (lightweight gun) (DDG-51 through −80); or
1 × 5-inch (127-mm)/62 Mk-45 mod 4 (lightweight gun) (DDG-81 onwards)
2 × (DDG-51 through −84); or
1 × (DDG-85 onwards) 20 mm Phalanx CIWS
2 × 25 mm M242 Bushmaster cannons
Torpedoes:
2 × Mark 32 triple torpedo tubes (six Mk-46 or Mk-50 torpedoes, Mk-54 in the near future)
I don't know the power damage capabilities of the missiles, but the Phalanx CIWS alone fires
armor piercing tungsten rounds that self destruct after impact via an M61 Vulcan gatling gun.
+3 Until your next turn whenever a creature attacks ~, ~ deals 3 damage to that creature. (Reload ammo)
-5 ~ Deals 5 damage to target craeture or player. (FIRE ALL MISSILES)
-15 ~ deals 20 damage to both players (nuke??)
Starting loyality at 7
As a planeswalker? Must be related to the Philadelphia Experiment.
@Tomcat: The idea of any human construct being more powerful than even a minor non-spawn Eldrazi really rustles my jimmies.
Nothing on open sea gives a damn about a tsunami. The wave is only dangerous when it hits shallows and starts to pile up.
I think it makes good sense. Arleigh Burke Class destroyers are equipped with about 90 missiles each. That's a hell of a lot of damage that would completely decimate medieval fortresses, or frankly entire towns/ villages.
In fact, a single destroyer could probably move along the coast obliterate every hamlet within its range.
Eldrazi decimates towns. US modern destroyers decimate towns.
Even the weaker short range guns fire armor piercing explosive rounds in a Gatling Gun. Dragon scales may be strong as steel (depending on the dragon), but the short range phalanx CIWS can handle steel ship hulls.
or think of the magic to modern power translation this way: If i were a powerful wizard capable of casting frost spells that could kill a grizzly bear, could I in fact survive being shot in the face 90 times with tomahawk missiles.
Well, it definately has first strike. It's power is going to be way higher than it's toughness, as well.
Remembering that P/T increases are exponential, and given that it probably couldn't shoot down an Emrakul, I would say that it has around 10-13/14 power. Toughness is probably in the 8-10 range.
I don't think that it could take down a Stormtide Leviathan, so I'm putting it at 7/7.
Obviously it would be :r::w::u:
R for the destruction and firepower from the guns.
W for the valiant nature.
U for the tech behind it.
I'd give it Firststrike, Vigilance, Trample
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:5: X deals 7 dmg to all creature with Target counters on them.
I'm not sure it's possible for this sort of thing to make sense. Stormtide Leviathan is big enough to raise the sea level -- it shouldn't care about any number of ASROCs or torpedoes. Yet we know it takes only 8 Eager Cadets (or 1 Alaborn Zealot) to take it out.
The whole P/T system doesn't make sense if you try to make it into real life applications. It's too small in terms of variance. A grizzly bear is a 2/2, while a random person with a sword is 1/1. In reality the bear will utterly destroy the person. An elephant is a 3/3.
A big ****ing dragon is a 5/5. 7/7 is a enormous beast that is as large as mountains. The leviathans tend to have descriptions that they can create waves large enough to swallow islands, and yet they tend to be somewhere in the 7-9 range.
A giant robot is 11/11. The spaghetti monster that is supposed to be utterly world ending in its power and scope is 15/15.
To be fair, fantasy/sci-fi works on odd logic. Mass produced military vehicles tend to be super terrible compared with champions like Master Chief or Rafiq of the Many.
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5/5 - Dragon
6/6 - Titan (thought the destroyer could take a titan or wurmcoil engine down)
7/7 - ??? (Novablast Wurm, Hunted Horror, Sliver Queen?)
8/8 - Stormtide Leviathan (Don't think the destroyer could beat this guy)
Duno, the arbitrariness is what makes this fun and difficult. Like seriously, a Terra Stomper would beatup Grisslebrand...
I do believe that the destroyer has greater than 6 power. 8 power is where you start to see stuff like Godsire and other absolutely huge things, so I put it below there. 7 seems like the right power to me.
5/5 - Dragon
6/6 - Titan (thought the destroyer could take a titan or wurmcoil engine down)
7/7 - ??? (Novablast Wurm, Hunted Horror, Sliver Queen?)
8/8 - Stormtide Leviathan (Don't think the destroyer could beat this guy)
Duno, the arbitrariness is what makes this fun and difficult. Like seriously, a Terra Stomper would beatup Grisslebrand...
I do believe that the destroyer has greater than 6 power. 8 power is where you start to see stuff like Godsire and other absolutely huge things, so I put it below there. 7 seems like the right power to me.
I think the destroyer has at least reasonable odds of killing the Leviathan.
A single, modern torpedo has the capacity to split a warship in two:
Arleigh Burke destroyers are armed with two triple-tube torpedo launchers, not to mention the torpedos carried aboard the destroyer's helicopter.
Then, there are the 90+ missiles, naval guns, etc.
If pirate ship is 4/3, I think we can agree that the destroyer has to be more powerful: let's go conservative and call it 5/6. My reasoning is that it should be able to withstand fire, even dragonfire, and Arleigh Burke destroyers tend to be more defensive in nature than offensive (carrier protection duties, fleet defense vs subs and aircraft).
The destroyer should have more than first strike. It should at least have double strike, thanks to the 120 km range of its missiles, and might need triple strike keyworded for it. Heck, a Boros Swiftblade has double strike.
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Stormtide Leviathan raises the sea level. Trying to kill it with a torpedo is not going to work even if you shoot that thing up its nostrils. (Er, its blowhole, I guess.)
An arleigh-burke class destroyed can easily lay waste to towns. It's not exactly small either.
In comparison, a blue whale is 100 feet long and 200 tons.
The destroyer is over 500 feet long and 9200 tons. It has the mass of forty-six full grown blue whales and an armament with destructive power where a single torpedo can sink a metal ship.
Just for some size estimates, the destroyer is easily longer than a football field. (300ft vs 509)
2900 tomahawk cruise missile with 200KT warheads. Just to give you a comparison, 200kt of warhead is 12 times stronger than the nuclear weapon on Hiroshima.
RIM-66 standard missile strike capabilities holds a 32000 pound warhead, and flies at mach 3.5.
So....just to give you an idea, the missile alone weighs 8 tons and flies at 3.5 times the speed of sound.
In comparison, a toyota corolla from 2010 weights 2700 pounds (2700 vs 32000) and can drive at a top of speed of probably 100mph. (100 mph vs 2663 mph)
RIM-161 AEGIS ballistic missile defense system, fires a 1.5 ton missile at a whopping mach 7.88, and has an operational range of an incredible 500km+ or 270 nautical miles.
Are you saying this thing is nuclear-armed? Because I don't think it is. And if it isn't, there is no 200,000 ton warhead on this 9,000 ton ship.
Also, I highly doubt that there is a 32,000 pound warhead on a surface-to-air missile, unless the US Navy expects that it will need to shoot down an Imperial-class Star Destroyer.
The tomahawk missile can be equipped with the W80 nuclear warhead, which has a variable yield form 5-150KT. (The wikipedia page suggesting 200 KT seems to be a bit of an outlier - that doesn't appear in other references to the W80). Otherwise, a conventional warhead is 1000 lbs.
Holy ****. I had no idea that modern weapons were capable of such destruction.
That torpedo hit LITERALLY split the ship in two and the shock wave tossed it around like it was a toy.
No leviathan stands a chance against that, for a very simple reason - the pressure and shock wave generated from the blast itself. It'll turn the insides of anything into mush.
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Length 509 feet, approximate displacement, 9200 tons.
For reference, Pirate ship is 4/3
I'm going to guess its at least 13/10
Also, if it was a magic card, it would be a colorless permanent.
I'm gonna go with 10/12, with the following:
-Double Strike
-Arleigh Burke Destroyer can block creatures with flying or Islandwalk
-(2): Arleigh Burke Destroyer deals 5 damage to target creature or player (to represent cruise missiles).
UBW Sharuum
BR Olivia Voldaren
UR Jhoira
URG Riku
U Vendilion Clique
I'm also thinking that it should be equipment, rather than a creature, cards like pirate ship notwithstanding.
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+3 Until your next turn whenever a creature attacks ~, ~ deals 3 damage to that creature. (Reload ammo)
-5 ~ Deals 5 damage to target craeture or player. (FIRE ALL MISSILES)
-15 ~ deals 20 damage to both players (nuke??)
Starting loyality at 7
I don't know, but now I'm wondering how often an Arleigh-Burke Class Destroyer is referred to as an "ABCD."
Missiles:
Flight I: 90 cell Mk 41 Vertical Launching System (VLS)
Flights II and IIA: 96 cell Mk 41 VLS
BGM-109 Tomahawk
RIM-66M Standard medium range SAM (has an ASuW mode)[citation needed]
RIM-161 Standard Ballistic missile defense missile for Aegis BMD (15 ships as of March 2009[6])
RIM-162 ESSM SAM (DDG-79 onward)
RUM-139 Vertical Launch ASROC
RIM-174A Standard ERAM to be added in 2011
RGM-84 Harpoon SSM (not in Flight IIA units)[7]
Guns:
1 × 5-inch (127-mm)/62 Mk-45 Mod 1/2 (lightweight gun) (DDG-51 through −80); or
1 × 5-inch (127-mm)/62 Mk-45 mod 4 (lightweight gun) (DDG-81 onwards)
2 × (DDG-51 through −84); or
1 × (DDG-85 onwards) 20 mm Phalanx CIWS
2 × 25 mm M242 Bushmaster cannons
Torpedoes:
2 × Mark 32 triple torpedo tubes (six Mk-46 or Mk-50 torpedoes, Mk-54 in the near future)
I don't know the power damage capabilities of the missiles, but the Phalanx CIWS alone fires
armor piercing tungsten rounds that self destruct after impact via an M61 Vulcan gatling gun.
Probability US Arleigh-Burke Class Destroyer ever becoming a magic card = 1 in 100,00,000.
As a planeswalker? Must be related to the Philadelphia Experiment.
Nothing on open sea gives a damn about a tsunami. The wave is only dangerous when it hits shallows and starts to pile up.
Art is life itself.
Def needs to be like a 22/18 with fist strike.
I think it makes good sense. Arleigh Burke Class destroyers are equipped with about 90 missiles each. That's a hell of a lot of damage that would completely decimate medieval fortresses, or frankly entire towns/ villages.
In fact, a single destroyer could probably move along the coast obliterate every hamlet within its range.
Eldrazi decimates towns. US modern destroyers decimate towns.
Even the weaker short range guns fire armor piercing explosive rounds in a Gatling Gun. Dragon scales may be strong as steel (depending on the dragon), but the short range phalanx CIWS can handle steel ship hulls.
or think of the magic to modern power translation this way: If i were a powerful wizard capable of casting frost spells that could kill a grizzly bear, could I in fact survive being shot in the face 90 times with tomahawk missiles.
Remembering that P/T increases are exponential, and given that it probably couldn't shoot down an Emrakul, I would say that it has around 10-13/14 power. Toughness is probably in the 8-10 range.
Obviously it would be :r::w::u:
R for the destruction and firepower from the guns.
W for the valiant nature.
U for the tech behind it.
I'd give it Firststrike, Vigilance, Trample
:1: put a Target counter on target creature.
:5: X deals 7 dmg to all creature with Target counters on them.
7/7, make it cost :4::r::w::u:
... I might have to make a set like this...
A big ****ing dragon is a 5/5. 7/7 is a enormous beast that is as large as mountains. The leviathans tend to have descriptions that they can create waves large enough to swallow islands, and yet they tend to be somewhere in the 7-9 range.
A giant robot is 11/11. The spaghetti monster that is supposed to be utterly world ending in its power and scope is 15/15.
Art is life itself.
5/5 - Dragon
6/6 - Titan (thought the destroyer could take a titan or wurmcoil engine down)
7/7 - ??? (Novablast Wurm, Hunted Horror, Sliver Queen?)
8/8 - Stormtide Leviathan (Don't think the destroyer could beat this guy)
Duno, the arbitrariness is what makes this fun and difficult. Like seriously, a Terra Stomper would beatup Grisslebrand...
I do believe that the destroyer has greater than 6 power. 8 power is where you start to see stuff like Godsire and other absolutely huge things, so I put it below there. 7 seems like the right power to me.
I think the destroyer has at least reasonable odds of killing the Leviathan.
A single, modern torpedo has the capacity to split a warship in two:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vaImLvZbPw
Arleigh Burke destroyers are armed with two triple-tube torpedo launchers, not to mention the torpedos carried aboard the destroyer's helicopter.
Then, there are the 90+ missiles, naval guns, etc.
If pirate ship is 4/3, I think we can agree that the destroyer has to be more powerful: let's go conservative and call it 5/6. My reasoning is that it should be able to withstand fire, even dragonfire, and Arleigh Burke destroyers tend to be more defensive in nature than offensive (carrier protection duties, fleet defense vs subs and aircraft).
The destroyer should have more than first strike. It should at least have double strike, thanks to the 120 km range of its missiles, and might need triple strike keyworded for it. Heck, a Boros Swiftblade has double strike.
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U Vendilion Clique
Even a crash of rhinoceres has power 8.
An arleigh-burke class destroyed can easily lay waste to towns. It's not exactly small either.
In comparison, a blue whale is 100 feet long and 200 tons.
The destroyer is over 500 feet long and 9200 tons. It has the mass of forty-six full grown blue whales and an armament with destructive power where a single torpedo can sink a metal ship.
Just for some size estimates, the destroyer is easily longer than a football field. (300ft vs 509)
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Weapons armament.
2900 tomahawk cruise missile with 200KT warheads. Just to give you a comparison, 200kt of warhead is 12 times stronger than the nuclear weapon on Hiroshima.
RIM-66 standard missile strike capabilities holds a 32000 pound warhead, and flies at mach 3.5.
So....just to give you an idea, the missile alone weighs 8 tons and flies at 3.5 times the speed of sound.
In comparison, a toyota corolla from 2010 weights 2700 pounds (2700 vs 32000) and can drive at a top of speed of probably 100mph. (100 mph vs 2663 mph)
RIM-161 AEGIS ballistic missile defense system, fires a 1.5 ton missile at a whopping mach 7.88, and has an operational range of an incredible 500km+ or 270 nautical miles.
Also, I highly doubt that there is a 32,000 pound warhead on a surface-to-air missile, unless the US Navy expects that it will need to shoot down an Imperial-class Star Destroyer.
That torpedo hit LITERALLY split the ship in two and the shock wave tossed it around like it was a toy.
No leviathan stands a chance against that, for a very simple reason - the pressure and shock wave generated from the blast itself. It'll turn the insides of anything into mush.