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4. The List of sets that can be in MM are as follows
- Names in bold are confirmed, including their card number
- Names in normal type (not bold) are confirmed, but their exact card number is as yet unknown. Their positions may be subject to change.
- Names in italics are speculation
- Elspeth, Knight Errand
- Yosei, the Morning Star
- Keiga, the Tide Star
- Vendilion Clique
- Dark Confidant
- Kokushu, the Evening Star
- Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Braker
- Ryusei, the Falling Star
- Jugan, the Rising Star
- Tarmogoyf
- Progenitus
- Sarkhan Vol
- Sword of Fire and Ice
- Sword of Light and Shadow
- Vedalken Shackles
There's no number crunch thread for MM yet and I'm not going to start one because I don't feel up to running it myself, so I'm just going to leave this here.
Edit: Oh, huh, seems there actually was and I just forgot about it. Thanks for the move, mods!
(I guess there might not be much point to doing it, given that we'll probably get so little of it filled in before the set releases. Too bad. Crunching a set of all reprints would be fun. There hasn't been one of those since Tenth Edition.)
Anyway, the point is, the card image gallery is up now, so we can count spans and see how many cards there are in each section.
if we add one each to white and black tarmogoyf becomes #167
e: however, there is literally nothing that can come before aether spellbomb in the artifacts section, so it must start at 196. guess they made a mistake somewhere!
With 35x5, green cards span 141-175. Tarmogoyf appears to be #166. There's no issue.
if we add one each to white and black tarmogoyf becomes #167
e: however, there is literally nothing that can come before aether spellbomb in the artifacts section, so it must start at 196. guess they made a mistake somewhere!
Split cards sequentially come between Gold and Artifact cards in set numbering. I think it's entirely possible there are 2x Split cards in this set. Best possibilities afaik are:
Crime/Punishment
Hide/Seek
(In Planar Chaos, the split Red cards came in between Shifted and non-Shifted Red cards, so unless WOTC changes numbering, stuff like Dead/Gone or Boom/Bust wouldn't be in the number crunch between artifacts and gold cards)
Hybrid cards also come sequentially between Gold and Artifact cards. Given that we are short one White and one Black card, we could be looking at:
LIKELY
Deathbringer Liege (B/W Hybrid)
Debtors' Knell (B/W Hybrid)
Divinity of Pride (B/W Hybrid)
Stillmoon Cavalier (B/W Hybrid)
If City of Brass is 221, and lands "should" fit into 219-229... then our lands for the set are likely "functional" lands... The Painlands don't fit (three lands before City), the Filterlands don't fit (Cascade would be the only one before City). Shocklands and Karoos would work though, interestingly enough...
Otherwise:
219 - Academy Ruins/Anceint Den
220 - Blinkmoth/Boseju
221 - City of Brass
If City of Brass is 221, and lands "should" fit into 219-229... then our lands for the set are likely "functional" lands... The Painlands don't fit (three lands before City), the Filterlands don't fit (Cascade would be the only one before City). Shocklands and Karoos would work though, interestingly enough...
Otherwise:
219 - Academy Ruins/Anceint Den
220 - Blinkmoth/Boseju
221 - City of Brass
Only the eventide lands really had supply issues- (EVE/FS were specifically called out by Aaron as problem sets.) I would expect Cascade Bluffs, Flooded Grove, Rugged Prairie, Twilight Mire and Fetid Heath, but not the other 5. Either Blinkmoth or Academy Ruins would be the other likely pre-CoB option.
edit:
219 Academy Ruins/Blinkmoth Nexus
220 Cascade Bluffs
221 City of Brass
222 Fetid Heath
223 Flooded Grove
224 Glimmervoid
225 Grove of the Burnwillows
226 Horizon Canopy
227 Mutavault (Mythic?)
228 Rugged Prarie
229 Twilight Mire
This is my working list for the lands. Given that Urborg just got a reissue in FTV, I suspect it's unlikely as a reprint here, same with Boseiju.
219 Academy Ruins/Blinkmoth Nexus
220 Cascade Bluffs
221 City of Brass
222 Fetid Heath
223 Flooded Grove
224 Glimmervoid
225 Grove of the Burnwillows
226 Horizon Canopy
227 Mutavault (Mythic?)
228 Rugged Prarie
229 Twilight Mire
I like this list, and Seds said the same thing about the EVE lands on Twitter when I brought up my theory. Also forgot the arti-lands were banned. Not sure if I agree that they'd only print 5 of a ten land cycle, but I can see it laid out like this. Though it wouldn't shock me to see them throw the five uncommon tri-lands in there for the sake of draft, and freeing up more rare space to play with.
EDIT - If we said no to any FTV, and we took out the five EVE lands... this is how I could see it looking if they mixed up rarity a bit to open up rare spots:
219 Academy Ruins
220 Blinkmoth Nexus
221 City of Brass
222 Darksteel Citadel
223 Gemstome Mine
224 Glimmervoid
225 Mutavault
226 Reflecting Pool
227 Urza Mine
228 Urza Power Plant
229 Urza Tower
As much as I'd love a blackbordered Mine/Power Plant/Tower, they're all easily available for under $2 each due to them having been printed in 5 sets each.
As much as I'd love a blackbordered Mine/Power Plant/Tower, they're all easily available for under $2 each due to them having been printed in 5 sets each.
True, but we need things in lower rarity, and we also can't "win em all." There has to be SOME filler, but keeping it something like Tron in is at least Iconic and "defendable."
And those potential five spots before Dark Confidant?
69 Ad Nauseum / Auger of Skulls
70 Bad Moon / Blackmail / Beacon of Unrest
71 Black Knight / Brainspoil / Bridge From Below
72 Cemetery Reaper / Cruel Edict
73 Dark Banishing / Damnation
Anything else I see is either post-Alara, or just really bad choices that wouldn't make any sense (yay Carrion Wall!).
My list was based on cards that were at one point played in tournament Magic, are played now, or had some kind of history to the game. Ambition's Cost just saw a reprint, and I don't think Ashling is an option here. I would say Ad Nauseum and Blackmail are the most likely here. Bitter Ordeal would be cool for quite a few players, and would fit the bill for "junk slot" if this is a high end set. Otherwise I agree with your other choices. Wouldn't shock me to see Corrupt or an Edict in that one place.
My list was based on cards that were at one point played in tournament Magic, are played now, or had some kind of history to the game.
I don't think that's the best assumption. It's not just "cards that are most popular in Modern" but "cards in Modern that need reprints to hold down prices". While some consideration needs to be given at Common and Uncommon for draft purposes, I don't think they're looking solely at deck types and figuring out how to support that deck type just from 8th - ALA cards. Black Knight may be commonly played, but there's no lack of supply of that card.
Spent some time going through possible white cards, and it was really difficult to pair it down to just 34-35. I think crunching is pretty hard to do here without some more spoiled cards. We have someone claiming to have info in speculation, but it sounds pretty off IMO. I wouldn't be shocked if we see some booster images or SOMETHING more solid before the weekend. Otherwise, I can't wait for the crunch thread to go up. It's going to be a fun distraction!
EDIT - Ben Bleiweiss from SCG speculates on the artifacts:
So, now that this is an "official" thread, we're no longer allowed to speculate on cards for a given number, even though that's what most of the previous posts in this thread are?
That is a bit disappointing, esp since that's how we'll be able to confirm certain cards in an all reprint set. Sure, it would get annoying if people put up wish lists, but anything we've been posting has been logic based IMO.
I think the Signets are a significant possibility, on the basis that we got 2 really pretty new arts in Izzet V. Golgari, and I'm sure Wizards realizes that there are fans that want new versions of the other 8, and foils of them to boot.
I think the Signets are a significant possibility, on the basis that we got 2 really pretty new arts in Izzet V. Golgari, and I'm sure Wizards realizes that there are fans that want new versions of the other 8, and foils of them to boot.
I agree it's possible, but as I said in the other thread where Ben presented the idea, the art WAS used in MTGO Cube. Not saying it's not the only reason they commissioned it, but there were other things as well that will likely never see printed again in physical form. I also think that if they do that, they'll be common, and not uncommon like Ben suggests.
I agree it's possible, but as I said in the other thread where Ben presented the idea, the art WAS used in MTGO Cube. Not saying it's not the only reason they commissioned it, but there were other things as well that will likely never see printed again in physical form. I also think that if they do that, they'll be common, and not uncommon like Ben suggests.
That would make a nice common cycle for mana fixing in the drafts. Not against them changing rarities. (Also didn't realize they were in the modo cube. Really shoulda played that when I could)
So, now that this is an "official" thread, we're no longer allowed to speculate on cards for a given number, even though that's what most of the previous posts in this thread are?
Well, once we have a few more cards, we'll be able to fill things in a bit better -- there's only so many possibilities, after all! It won't be uninformed speculation at that point.
Unfortunately I expect we're not going to get enough cards in time...
Edit: Btw, Arcadic -- you've left Coldsnap off the list of possible sources of reprints. (Also, you have a link to the M13 announcement instead of the MM announcement.)
There's no number crunch thread for MM yet and I'm not going to start one because I don't feel up to running it myself, so I'm just going to leave this here.
Edit: Oh, huh, seems there actually was and I just forgot about it. Thanks for the move, mods!
(I guess there might not be much point to doing it, given that we'll probably get so little of it filled in before the set releases. Too bad. Crunching a set of all reprints would be fun. There hasn't been one of those since Tenth Edition.)
Anyway, the point is, the card image gallery is up now, so we can count spans and see how many cards there are in each section.
...except that only totals to 227 instead of 229? Something's up. Dunno where the missing two might be. Maybe white and black really have 35 each?
What's more likely? A programmer screwed up the formatting, or there are really 2 cards that don't exist and we know exactly where they ought to have been?
Someone screwed up, that's all. 35 for each color is the only logical answer.
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8th Edition
9th Edition
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Partial Spoiler
- Names in bold are confirmed, including their card number
- Names in normal type (not bold) are confirmed, but their exact card number is as yet unknown. Their positions may be subject to change.
- Names in italics are speculation
Let me know if I missed any
White -
1 Adarkar Valkyrie, Rare
2 Amrou Scout, Common
3 Amrou Seekers, Common
4 Angels’s Grace, Rare
5 Auriok Salvagers, Rare
6 Avian Changeling, Common
7 Bilinding Beam, Common
8 Bound in Silence, Common
9 Cenn's Enlistment, Common
10 Cloudgoat Ranger, Uncommon
11 Court Homunculus, Common
12 Dispeller's Capsule, Common
13 Elspeth, Knight Errant, Mythic
14 Ethersworn Canonist, Rare
15 Feudkiller's Verdict, Uncommon
16 Flickerwisp, Uncommon
17 Gleam of Resistance, Common
18 Hillcomber Giant, Common
19 Ivory Giant, Common
20 Kataki, War’s Wage, Rare
21 Kithkin Greathart, Common
22 Meadowboon, Uncommon
23 Otherworldly Journey, Common
24 Pallid Mycoderm, Common
25 Path to Exile, Uncommon
26 Reveillark, Rare
27 Saltfield Recluse, Common
28 Sanctum Gargoyle, Common
29 Sandsower, Uncommon
30 Stir the Pride, Uncommon
31 Stonehewer Giant, Rare
32 Terashi's Grasp, Uncommon
33 Test of Faith, Common
34 Veteran Armorer, Common
35 Yosei, the Morning Star, Mythic
Blue -
36 Aethersnipe, Common
37 Careful Consideration, Uncommon
38 Cryptic Command, Rare
39 Dampen Thought, Common
40 Echoing Truth, Common
41 Errant Ephemeron, Common
42 Erratic Mutation, Common
43 Esperzoa, Uncommon
44 Etherium Sculptor, Common
45 Faerie Mechanist, Common
46 Gifts Ungiven, Rare
47 Glen Elendra Archmage, Rare
48 Keiga, the Tide Star, Mythic
49 Kira, Great Glass-Spinner, Rare
50 Latchkey Faerie, Common
51 Logic Knot, Common
52 Meloku the Clouded Mirror, Rare
53 Mothdust Changeling, Common
54 Mulldrifter, Uncommon
55 Narcomoeba, Uncommon
56 Pact of Negation, Rare
57 Peer Through Depths, Common
58 Perilous Research, Common
59 Pestermite, Common
60 Petals of Insight, Common
61 Reach through Mists, Common
62 Riftwing Cloudscate, Uncommon
63 Scion of Oona, Rare
64 Spell Snare, Uncommon
65 Spellstutter Sprite, Common
66 Take Possesion, Uncommon
67 Thirst for Knowledge, Uncommon
68 Traumatic Visions, Common
69 Vedalken Dismisser, Common
70 Vendilion Clique, Mythic
Black -
71 Absorb Vis, Common
72 Auntie's Snitch, Uncommon
73 Blightspeaker, Common
74 Bridge from Below, Rare
75 Dark Confidant, Mythic
76 Death Cloud, Rare
77 Death Denied, Common
78 Death Rattle, Uncommon
79 Deepcavern Imp, Common
80 Drag Down, Common
81 Dreamspoiler Witches, Common
82 Earwig Squad, Rare
83 Executioner's Capsule, Common
84 Extirpate, Rare
85 Facevaulter, Common
86 Faerie Macabre, Common
87 Festering Goblin, Common
88 Horobi's Whisper, Uncommon
89 Kokushu, the Evening Star, Mythic
90 Mad Auntie, Uncommon
91 Marsh Flitter, Uncommon
92 Peppersmoke, Common
93 Phthisis, Uncommon
94 Rathi Trapper, Common
95 Raven's Crime, Common
96 Skeletal Vampire, Rare
97 Slaughter Pact, Rare
98 Stinkweed Imp, Common
99 Street Wraith, Common
100 Syphon Life, Common
101 Thieving Sprite, Common
102 Tombstalker, Rare
103 Warren Pilferers, Common
104 Warren Weirding, Common
Red -
105 Blind-Spot Giant, Common
106 Blood Moon, Rare
107 Brute Force, Common
108 Countryside Crusher, Rare
109 Crush Underfoot, Common
110 Desparate Ritual, Uncommon
111 Dragonstorm, Rare
112 Empty the Warrens, Common
113 Fiery Fall, Common
114 Fury Charm, Common
115 Glacial Ray, Common
116 Grapeshot, Common
117 Greater Gargodon, Rare
118 Grinning Ignus, Uncommon
119 Hammerheim Deadeye, Common
120 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Mythic
121 Lava Spike, Common
122 Mogg War Marshall, Common
123 Molten Disaster, Rare
124 Pardic Dragon, Uncommon
125 Pyromancer's Swath, Rare
126 Rift Bolt, Common
127 Rift Elemental, Common
128 Ryusei, the Falling Star, Mythic
129 Shrapnel Blast, Uncommon
130 Squee, Goblin Nabob, Rare
131 Stingscourger, Common
132 Stinkdrinker Daredevil, Common
133 Sudden Shock, Uncommon
134 Tar Pitcher, Uncommon
135 Thundercloud Shaman, Uncommon
136 Thundering Giant, Common
137 Torrent of Stone, Common
138 Tribal Flames, Uncommon
139 War-Spike Changeling, Common
Green -
140 Citanul Woodriders, Common
141 Doubling Season, Rare
142 Durkwood Baloth, Common
143 Echoing Courage, Common
144 Eternal Witness, Uncommon
145 Giant Dustwasp, Common
146 Greater Mossdog, Common
147 Hana Kami, Common
148 Imperiosaur, Common
149 Incremental Growth, Uncommon
150 Jugan, the Rising Star, Mythic
151 Kodama's Reach, Common
152 Krosan Grip, Uncommon
153 Life from the Loam, Rare
154 Masked Admirers, Uncommon
155 Moldervine Cloack, Common
156 Nantoku Shaman, Common
157 Penumbra Spider, Common
158 Reach of Branches, Uncommon
159 Riftsweeper, Uncommon
160 Rude Awakening, Rare
161 Search for Tomorrow, Common
162 Sporesower Thallid, Uncommon
163 Sporoloth Ancient, Common
164 Summoner's Pact, Rare
165 Sylvan Bounty, Common
166 Tarmogoyf, Mythic
167 Thallid, Common
168 Thallid Germinator, Common
169 Thallid Shell-Dweller, Common
170 Tooth and Nail, Rare
171 Tromp the Domains, Uncommon
172 Verdeloth the Ancient, Rare
173 Walker of the Grove, Common
174 Woodfall Primus, Rare
Multicolored -
175 :symu::symr: Electrolyze, Uncommon
176 :symw::symu: Grand Arbiter Augustin IV, Rare
177 :symu::symr: Jhoira of the Ghitu, Rare
178 :symg::symw: Knight of the Reliquary, Rare
179 :symw::symr: Lightning Helix, Uncommon
180 :symb::symg: Maelstrom Pulse, Rare
181 :symu::symb: Mind Funeral, Uncommon
182 :symw::symu::symb::symr::symg: Progenitus, Mythic
183 :symr::symg: Sarkhan Vol, Mythic
184 :symw::symb: Tidehollow Sculler, Uncommon
185 :symg::symu: Trygon Predator, Uncommon
Hybrid -
186 Cold-Eyed Selkie, Rare
187 Demigod of Revenge, Rare
188 Divinity of Pride, Rare
189 Figure of Destiny, Rare
190 Kitchen Finks, Uncommon
191 Manamorphose, Uncommon
192 Murderoud Redcap, Uncommon
193 Oona, Queen of the Fae, Rare
194 Plumeveil, Uncommon
195 Worm Harvest, Uncommon
Artifact -
196 A Aether Spellbomb, Common
197 A Aether Vial, Rare
198 A Arcbound Ravager, Rare
199 A Arcbound Stinger, Common
200 A Arcbound Wanderer, Common
201 A Arcbound Worker, Common
202 A Bonesplitter, Common
203 A Chalice of the Voids, Rare
204 A Engineered Explosives, Rare
205 A Epochrasite, Uncommon
206 A Etched Oracle, Uncommon
207 A Frogmite, Common
208 A Lotus Bloom, Rare
209 A Myr Enforcer, Common
210 A Myr Retriever, Uncommon
211 A Paradise Mantle, Uncommon
212 A Pyrite Spellbomb, Common
213 A Relic of Progenitus, Uncommon
214 A Runed Stalactite, Common
215 A Skyreach Manta, Common
216 A Sword of Fire and Ice, Mythic
217 A Sword of Light and Shadow, Mythic
218 A Vedalken Shackles, Mythic
Land -
219 L Academy Ruins, Rare
220 L Blinkmoth Nexus, Rare
221 L City of Brass, Rare
222 L Dakmor Salvage, Uncommon
223 L Glimmervoid, Rare
224 L Terramorphic Expanse, Common
225 L Vivid Crag, Uncommon
226 L Vivid Creek, Uncommon
227 L Vivid Grove, Uncommon
228 L Vivid Marsh, Uncommon
229 L Vivid Meadow, Uncommon
All 15 Mythics accounted for:
- Elspeth, Knight Errand
- Yosei, the Morning Star
- Keiga, the Tide Star
- Vendilion Clique
- Dark Confidant
- Kokushu, the Evening Star
- Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Braker
- Ryusei, the Falling Star
- Jugan, the Rising Star
- Tarmogoyf
- Progenitus
- Sarkhan Vol
- Sword of Fire and Ice
- Sword of Light and Shadow
- Vedalken Shackles
53 rares, 51 confirmed. Until now we have:
White:
- Adakar Valkyrie
- Angel's Grace
- Auriok Salvagers
- Ethersworn Canonist
- Kataki, War's Sage
- Reveillark
- Stonehewer Giant
Blue:
- Cryptic Command
- Gifts Ungiven
- Glen Elendra Archmage
- Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
- Meloku the Clouded Mirror
- Pact of Negation
- Scion of Oona
Black:
- Bridge from Below
- Death Cloud
- Earwig Squad
- Extirpate
- Skeletal Vampire
- Slaughter Pact
- Tombstalker
No Damnation, no Thoughtseize
Red:
- Blood Moon
- Countryside Crusher
- Dragonstorm
- Great Gargadon
- Molten Disaster
- Pyromancer's Swath
- Squee, Goblin Nabob
Green:
- Doubling Season
- Life from the Loam
- Rude Awakening
- Summoner's Pact
- Tooth and Nail
- Verdeloth, the Ancient
- Woodfall Primus
No Noble Hierarch
Multicolor
- Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
- Jhoira of the Ghitu
- Knight of the Reliquary
- Maelstrom Pulse
Hybrid:
- Cold-Eyed Selkie
- Demigod of Revenge
- Divinity of Pride
- Figure of Destiny
- Oona, Queen of the Fae
Artifacts:
- Aether Vial
- Arcbound Ravager
- Chalice of the Void
- Engineered Explosives
- Lotus Bloom
Lands:
- Academy Ruins
- Blinkmoth Nexus
- City of Brass
- Glimmervoid
No Mutavault
Edit: Oh, huh, seems there actually was and I just forgot about it. Thanks for the move, mods!
(I guess there might not be much point to doing it, given that we'll probably get so little of it filled in before the set releases. Too bad. Crunching a set of all reprints would be fun. There hasn't been one of those since Tenth Edition.)
Anyway, the point is, the card image gallery is up now, so we can count spans and see how many cards there are in each section.
I count:
White: 34 cards
Blue: 35 cards
Black: 34 cards
Red: 35 cards
Green: 35 cards
Multicolored: 20 cards
Artifact: 23 cards
Land: 11 cards
...except that only totals to 227 instead of 229? Something's up. Dunno where the missing two might be. Maybe white and black really have 35 each?
Current post- Grand Prix KC Modern Postmortem (7/7/13)
It also fits nicely with Aether Spellomb being #196 as first artifact
With 35x5, green cards span 141-175. Tarmogoyf appears to be #166. There's no issue.
Current post- Grand Prix KC Modern Postmortem (7/7/13)
Split cards sequentially come between Gold and Artifact cards in set numbering. I think it's entirely possible there are 2x Split cards in this set. Best possibilities afaik are:
Crime/Punishment
Hide/Seek
(In Planar Chaos, the split Red cards came in between Shifted and non-Shifted Red cards, so unless WOTC changes numbering, stuff like Dead/Gone or Boom/Bust wouldn't be in the number crunch between artifacts and gold cards)
Hybrid cards also come sequentially between Gold and Artifact cards. Given that we are short one White and one Black card, we could be looking at:
LIKELY
Deathbringer Liege (B/W Hybrid)
Debtors' Knell (B/W Hybrid)
Divinity of Pride (B/W Hybrid)
Stillmoon Cavalier (B/W Hybrid)
Also possibly Reaper King
Otherwise:
219 - Academy Ruins/Anceint Den
220 - Blinkmoth/Boseju
221 - City of Brass
Only the eventide lands really had supply issues- (EVE/FS were specifically called out by Aaron as problem sets.) I would expect Cascade Bluffs, Flooded Grove, Rugged Prairie, Twilight Mire and Fetid Heath, but not the other 5. Either Blinkmoth or Academy Ruins would be the other likely pre-CoB option.
edit:
219 Academy Ruins/Blinkmoth Nexus
220 Cascade Bluffs
221 City of Brass
222 Fetid Heath
223 Flooded Grove
224 Glimmervoid
225 Grove of the Burnwillows
226 Horizon Canopy
227 Mutavault (Mythic?)
228 Rugged Prarie
229 Twilight Mire
This is my working list for the lands. Given that Urborg just got a reissue in FTV, I suspect it's unlikely as a reprint here, same with Boseiju.
Current post- Grand Prix KC Modern Postmortem (7/7/13)
I like this list, and Seds said the same thing about the EVE lands on Twitter when I brought up my theory. Also forgot the arti-lands were banned. Not sure if I agree that they'd only print 5 of a ten land cycle, but I can see it laid out like this. Though it wouldn't shock me to see them throw the five uncommon tri-lands in there for the sake of draft, and freeing up more rare space to play with.
EDIT - If we said no to any FTV, and we took out the five EVE lands... this is how I could see it looking if they mixed up rarity a bit to open up rare spots:
219 Academy Ruins
220 Blinkmoth Nexus
221 City of Brass
222 Darksteel Citadel
223 Gemstome Mine
224 Glimmervoid
225 Mutavault
226 Reflecting Pool
227 Urza Mine
228 Urza Power Plant
229 Urza Tower
Current post- Grand Prix KC Modern Postmortem (7/7/13)
True, but we need things in lower rarity, and we also can't "win em all." There has to be SOME filler, but keeping it something like Tron in is at least Iconic and "defendable."
And those potential five spots before Dark Confidant?
69 Ad Nauseum / Auger of Skulls
70 Bad Moon / Blackmail / Beacon of Unrest
71 Black Knight / Brainspoil / Bridge From Below
72 Cemetery Reaper / Cruel Edict
73 Dark Banishing / Damnation
Anything else I see is either post-Alara, or just really bad choices that wouldn't make any sense (yay Carrion Wall!).
Damnation and Bridge From Below I think are locks. Black Knight seems unlikely. Here's my guesses:
69 Ashling, the Extinguisher
70 Ambition's Cost / Bitter Ordeal
71 Bridge From Below
72 Corrupt
73 Damnation
74 Dark Confidant
75 Darkness
76 Dash Hopes
77 Death Baron
I don't think that's the best assumption. It's not just "cards that are most popular in Modern" but "cards in Modern that need reprints to hold down prices". While some consideration needs to be given at Common and Uncommon for draft purposes, I don't think they're looking solely at deck types and figuring out how to support that deck type just from 8th - ALA cards. Black Knight may be commonly played, but there's no lack of supply of that card.
You seem to be thinking of a different card?
Yup, Ancient Craving. Easy mix up on that one.
I do think we're heading in the same direction, just thinking of different cards that will fill those slots.
Sure; you can't reprint everything. I just wish we had more spoilers by now.
EDIT - Ben Bleiweiss from SCG speculates on the artifacts:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10225041#post10225041
Don't agree in his thought that the signets are in at uncommon. But otherwise some interesting thoughts.
I agree it's possible, but as I said in the other thread where Ben presented the idea, the art WAS used in MTGO Cube. Not saying it's not the only reason they commissioned it, but there were other things as well that will likely never see printed again in physical form. I also think that if they do that, they'll be common, and not uncommon like Ben suggests.
That would make a nice common cycle for mana fixing in the drafts. Not against them changing rarities. (Also didn't realize they were in the modo cube. Really shoulda played that when I could)
Well, once we have a few more cards, we'll be able to fill things in a bit better -- there's only so many possibilities, after all! It won't be uninformed speculation at that point.
Unfortunately I expect we're not going to get enough cards in time...
Edit: Btw, Arcadic -- you've left Coldsnap off the list of possible sources of reprints. (Also, you have a link to the M13 announcement instead of the MM announcement.)
What's more likely? A programmer screwed up the formatting, or there are really 2 cards that don't exist and we know exactly where they ought to have been?
Someone screwed up, that's all. 35 for each color is the only logical answer.