This thread is for discussion of the puzzle preview from Sept 10th.
the card has been worked out as:
Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder - 2BB or possibly 4B
Legendary Creature - Human Wizard (R)
Whenever you play a creature spell, put X 1/1 Black thrull creature tokens into play, where X is that spells converted mana cost.
When you control seven or more thrulls, sacrifice Endrek Sahr, Master breeder.
2/2
Please let us know if there are any corrections to this.
AUUGGHHH! How could they??? A couple extremely hard puzzles and an over-costed crap creature. WHat will they show us next, a 0/1 with defender for 6 as a rare?
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I think I found the right rules text.
Quote:
Whenever you play a creature spell, put X 1/1 black Thrull creature tokens into play where X is that spell's converted mana cost. When you control seven or more Thrulls, sacrifice PREVIEW_CARD.
Maybe the Master Breeder dude? Makes sense, making him be swarmed with Thrulls, and getting killed...
I believe the art is 16. Also, my guess at the ability: Whenever you play a creature spell, put X black 1/1 thrulls into play, where X is that spell's converted mana cost. If you control 7 or more thrulls, sacrifice this.
Whenever you play a creature spell, put X 1/1 black Thrull creature tokens into play where X is that spell's converted mana cost. When you control seven or more Thrulls, sacrifice PREVIEW_CARD.
This is what I came up with for the card's ability...
Please point out any errors with the hints... I see it as making sense...
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I think you mean "PoN", but it seems to me that "PwN" is more appropriate
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Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder [Name and Number Crunch]
1BB or 2BB [This Thread, page 4, I think]
Art 16 [This thread] Legendary Human Wizard [Name and Number Crunch // Puzzle] Whenever you play a creature spell, put X 1/1 black Thrull creature tokens into play where X is that spell's converted mana cost. When you control seven or more Thrulls, sacrifice ~The Card~.
Either a 2/3 or a 2/4. [Fuzzy math]
When I was young, the smallest trick of light,
Could catch my eye,
Then life was new and every new day,
I thought that I could fly.
I believed in what I hoped for,
And I hoped for things unseen,
I had wings and dreams could soar,
I just don't feel like flying anymore.
as far as I can tell it's a ---- straight up. kinda a pissy way to say "it's a ----". reason I'm guessing that is group 3 is shaman, group 4 is cleric, and group 5 is zombie. So he's a -----.... joy... stupid puzzles
edited. Turns out no human zombies. my bad. lol. but those are the answers for those three groups.
If i did my Calc right he has 3 toughness from the last puzle.
A) Blow up your Statecraft and his Powerstone Minefield or Presence.
(i think you have to blow up the minefield)
When he comes in the enchants will do two damage assuming you waste both Hyms. You have the Lashknife and Furnace of Rath to factor in. 6 damage when he comes into play (assuming he blows the Seal). -2 Via sources and Lashkinfe, then -2 more for each Hym. so 2 damage and thusly he has 3 toughness.
If you kill the Presence his power can be anything. Otherwise it might be 3.
RnD during Time Spiral:
Rosewater: "Color Pie, WTF is that, If I want Black to be able to wrath, counter and have green creatures then I will damnit!"
Random RnD guy: "RED AKORMA! FTW!"
Gleemax: "Rosewater has broken out of my mind control!"
RnD after 2008:
MaRo: Hmm how do we fix the problems of pricing with cards like Tarmogoyf and Thoughtsieze
Random RnD Guy: OO lets make a new RED RARITY SYMBOL!
MARO: OMGWTFBBQ! Thats a great idea, we'll call it Mythic Rarity!
Gleemax: NOT AGAIN! CELEB
P/T must be 4/7 or thereabouts (didn't do the math, but a quick glance at all the damage replacing/modifyin effects says it hasta get around 2 aether flashes doubled, then reduced to 3
1. Cytoplast Manipulator - #10, E
2.
3. Ebon Praetor
4. Guardian Best - #17, R
5. Balduvian Warlord - #3 - E
6. Drakmor Sorceress
7. Burning Tree Shaman - #7, R
8. Scares of the Veteran
9. Chaos Harlequin - H
10. Momir Vig, Simic Visionary - #21, R
11. Mindbender Spors
12. Guiding Spirit - #18, A
13. Gallowbraid - #16, S
14.
15. Descendant of Kiyomaro
16. ~~~~
17. Weird Harvest
18. Dosan the Falling Leaf
19. Briarknit Kami
20.
21. Collector Protector
22. Birds of Paradise
23. Sage of Lat Nam
24.
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"One skilled at battle takes a stand in the ground of no defeat
And so does not lose the enemy's defeat.
Therefore, the victorious military is first victorious and after that does battle.
The defeated military first does battle and after that seeks victory."
I read over the abilitys, it is possible, that the last ability isnt just "sacrifice PREVIEW_CARD", but the more splashy "draw 7 cards and sacrifice all creatures you control" making the whole (possible) ability
"Whenever you play a creature spell, put X 1/1 black Thrull creature tokens into play where X is that spell's converted mana cost. When you control seven or more Thrulls, draw 7 cards and sacrifice all creatures you control."
[Edit] I also believe his power is "2"
Cip, use pandemonium to shoot him for 2, doubled to 4, then reduced to three by divine presence. Then, attack for two, doubled to four, reduced to three by presence. he is at one, no mercy on the stack, sacrifice to bombardment to kill him.
with one power, you do two, two, and no mercy on the stack, sacrifice to bombardment for two, and kill him.
one seal needs to be used on your statecraft. the other seal is used to figure out the toughness.
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I think you mean "PoN", but it seems to me that "PwN" is more appropriate
(the 'w' stands for 'win', I think)
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I think that WoTC felt that a lot of the players thought Standard was becoming mundane and a joke from all the nuked cards floating around. R&D took a vacation, and MaRo just started reprinting things.
P/T must be 4/7 or thereabouts (didn't do the math, but a quick glance at all the damage replacing/modifyin effects says it hasta get around 2 aether flashes doubled, then reduced to 3
It can cost less than 7, the reason they put it in the card list of hynox, angel and draco....
IT KILLS ITSELF CUZ ITS LEGENDARY. So it can cost less than 7.
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the card has been worked out as:
Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder - 2BB or possibly 4B
Legendary Creature - Human Wizard (R)
Whenever you play a creature spell, put X 1/1 Black thrull creature tokens into play, where X is that spells converted mana cost.
When you control seven or more thrulls, sacrifice Endrek Sahr, Master breeder.
2/2
Please let us know if there are any corrections to this.
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Rosewater: "Color Pie, WTF is that, If I want Black to be able to wrath, counter and have green creatures then I will damnit!"
Random RnD guy: "RED AKORMA! FTW!"
Gleemax: "Rosewater has broken out of my mind control!"
RnD after 2008:
MaRo: Hmm how do we fix the problems of pricing with cards like Tarmogoyf and Thoughtsieze
Random RnD Guy: OO lets make a new RED RARITY SYMBOL!
MARO: OMGWTFBBQ! Thats a great idea, we'll call it Mythic Rarity!
Gleemax: NOT AGAIN!
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Maybe the Master Breeder dude? Makes sense, making him be swarmed with Thrulls, and getting killed...
I know art better than I thought.
The art for the new card is art 16.
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This is what I came up with for the card's ability...
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[edit] Sorta Sarnath'd by people who know art better than I. 16 lines up with the ability you guys got, too.
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Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder [Name and Number Crunch]
1BB or 2BB [This Thread, page 4, I think]
Art 16 [This thread]
Legendary Human Wizard [Name and Number Crunch // Puzzle]
Whenever you play a creature spell, put X 1/1 black Thrull creature tokens into play where X is that spell's converted mana cost. When you control seven or more Thrulls, sacrifice ~The Card~.
Either a 2/3 or a 2/4. [Fuzzy math]
Definately a Rare.
Edit: Updated after 4 pages.
Could catch my eye,
Then life was new and every new day,
I thought that I could fly.
I believed in what I hoped for,
And I hoped for things unseen,
I had wings and dreams could soar,
I just don't feel like flying anymore.
edited. Turns out no human zombies. my bad. lol. but those are the answers for those three groups.
group 2 is mutant.
A) Blow up your Statecraft and his Powerstone Minefield or Presence.
(i think you have to blow up the minefield)
When he comes in the enchants will do two damage assuming you waste both Hyms. You have the Lashknife and Furnace of Rath to factor in. 6 damage when he comes into play (assuming he blows the Seal). -2 Via sources and Lashkinfe, then -2 more for each Hym. so 2 damage and thusly he has 3 toughness.
If you kill the Presence his power can be anything. Otherwise it might be 3.
Rosewater: "Color Pie, WTF is that, If I want Black to be able to wrath, counter and have green creatures then I will damnit!"
Random RnD guy: "RED AKORMA! FTW!"
Gleemax: "Rosewater has broken out of my mind control!"
RnD after 2008:
MaRo: Hmm how do we fix the problems of pricing with cards like Tarmogoyf and Thoughtsieze
Random RnD Guy: OO lets make a new RED RARITY SYMBOL!
MARO: OMGWTFBBQ! Thats a great idea, we'll call it Mythic Rarity!
Gleemax: NOT AGAIN!
CELEB
List 4/Art 22 - Birds of Paradise
List 6/Art 20 - Brine Shaman
List 7/Art 7 - Burning-Tree Shaman
List 10/Art 1 - Cytoplast Manipulator
List 11/Art 6 - Dakmor Sorceress
List 12/Art 15 - Descendant of Kiyomaro
List 14/Art 3 - Ebon Praetor
List 15/Art 14 - Fylamarid
List 17/Art 4 - Guardian Beast
List 21/Art 10 - Momir Vig, Simic Revolutionary
P/T must be 4/7 or thereabouts (didn't do the math, but a quick glance at all the damage replacing/modifyin effects says it hasta get around 2 aether flashes doubled, then reduced to 3
1. Cytoplast Manipulator - #10, E
2.
3. Ebon Praetor
4. Guardian Best - #17, R
5. Balduvian Warlord - #3 - E
6. Drakmor Sorceress
7. Burning Tree Shaman - #7, R
8. Scares of the Veteran
9. Chaos Harlequin - H
10. Momir Vig, Simic Visionary - #21, R
11. Mindbender Spors
12. Guiding Spirit - #18, A
13. Gallowbraid - #16, S
14.
15. Descendant of Kiyomaro
16. ~~~~
17. Weird Harvest
18. Dosan the Falling Leaf
19. Briarknit Kami
20.
21. Collector Protector
22. Birds of Paradise
23. Sage of Lat Nam
24.
And so does not lose the enemy's defeat.
Therefore, the victorious military is first victorious and after that does battle.
The defeated military first does battle and after that seeks victory."
"Whenever you play a creature spell, put X 1/1 black Thrull creature tokens into play where X is that spell's converted mana cost. When you control seven or more Thrulls, draw 7 cards and sacrifice all creatures you control."
[Edit] I also believe his power is "2"
Cip, use pandemonium to shoot him for 2, doubled to 4, then reduced to three by divine presence. Then, attack for two, doubled to four, reduced to three by presence. he is at one, no mercy on the stack, sacrifice to bombardment to kill him.
with one power, you do two, two, and no mercy on the stack, sacrifice to bombardment for two, and kill him.
one seal needs to be used on your statecraft. the other seal is used to figure out the toughness.
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1) Cytoplast Manipulator
2) Miracle Worker
3) Ebon Praetor
4) Guardian Beast
5) Balduvian Warlord
6) Drakmor Sorceress
7) Burning Tree Shaman
8) An-Havva Constable
9) Chaos Harlequin
10) Mormir Vig
11) Mindbender Spores
12) Guiding Spirit
13) Gallowbraid
14) Fylamarid
15) Descendant of Kiyomaro
16) ????????
17) Weird harvest
18) Dosan the Falling Leaf
19) Briarknit Kami
20) Brine Shaman
21) Collector Protector
22) Ravnica Birds
23) Sage of Lat-Nam
24) Angus Mackenzie
It can cost less than 7, the reason they put it in the card list of hynox, angel and draco....
IT KILLS ITSELF CUZ ITS LEGENDARY. So it can cost less than 7.