[TS] Cancel (Counterspell II), and Trickbind (Stifle II)...

Hydrokinesis · 09-17-2006, 03:06 PM

Greetings Fellow Rumor enthusiasts!

(R_E mentioned me bringing the peanuts in all of y'all Snickers somehere so here goes...)

[OfficialHydrodisclaimerincaseWOTCasks]...I posted this originally in the speculation forum yesteday, based on a small piece of information shown to me by a new, friendly, generous informer... I have a little more to the puzzle now, so here it is...[OfficialHydrodisclaimerincase WOTCasks]

Cancel (was previously yet un-named "Counterspell II")

Instant.
Counter Target spell.
Uncommon

And this too:

The yet un-named "Stifle II"

Counter target activated or triggered ability.
Further Activated or Triggered abilities cannot be played by that (card?) until end of turn. (Wording tricky here)
Split Second.
Rare?

[OfficialHydrodisclaimerincaseWOTCasks]Note, these cards aren't 100% yet, but they've been hinted at strongly by a person or three so far. And, people keep PMing me to post it here, so here it is...

Feel free to discuss, speculate on names, but please, no spamming the thread with cries of Fake. I've no reason to think these are fakes, and they get the [Official] Hydro Stamp of approval [/Official]! [OfficialHydrodisclaimerincaseWOTCasks]

Enjoy!

EDIT: Name found for the counterspell: Cancel!

Lunan · 09-17-2006, 03:09 PM

a solid hard counter and that stifle ouch. this card is goign to hurt quite a few things in the format

Cornithopter · 09-17-2006, 03:10 PM

Uncommon? Why? That seems wholely unnecessary and blah blah blah I don't like it at all. But I'm sure these cards are real, and both are cool.

Fui · 09-17-2006, 03:10 PM

thank you finally counter spell returns who cares if it is 3 we have rune snag and it might as well be counter spell cause its so strong... the stifle is sick probley better than the original....

Omen · 09-17-2006, 03:10 PM

It's a shame the counter is uncommon. The stifle's nice though. Do't know if it's quite that powerful. It may beat up the Husk decks or something though. Not much else.

Wildfire393 · 09-17-2006, 03:11 PM

Well, this appears to be the final death knell for counterspell. Nice to see a standard replacement for Hinder though.

The new stifle is very cool. I predicted that they would "fix" interdict, and they have... IN SPADES!

Mr.C · 09-17-2006, 03:12 PM

yay, now i can play type two again. Yes, i like playing boring decks, so what?

Nah, actually, time Spiral is shaping up to be an interesting set, at least from the mono-color aspect.

Morph · 09-17-2006, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornithopter

Uncommon? Why? That seems wholely unnecessary and blah blah blah I don't like it at all. But I'm sure these cards are real, and both are cool.

Good/Hard counter are getting the uncommon slot now... look at hinder and remand for instance.

Still... they are great news! Finally... I'm starting to get a little hyped with TS (still... not confidant enough about it)

Absolutionis · 09-17-2006, 03:13 PM

So, these cared are in Time Spiral?

I guess the new Counterspell will replace Hinder quite well.
I'm actually really hopeful and happy.

**RMS Oceanic** · 09-17-2006, 03:14 PM

At long last, Mystic Denial's fully grown brother enters the foray. This card has been speculated since Mirrodin, and it's finally here. First dibs on assuming it's a 10th/11th plant!

The super-Stifle is awesome too. Take that, Psychatog!

Guinea Pig · 09-17-2006, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrokinesis

The yet un-named "Counterspell II"

Instant.
Counter Target spell.
Uncommon

That would be the counterspells coming full circle, then. Many cards have hinted that 1UU "is supposed to be" the casting cost for countering with no strings attached, and I believe Aaron Forsythe said it once. Though I think MaRo said the opposite once.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrokinesis

The yet un-named "Stifle II"

Counter target activated or triggered ability.
Further Activated or Triggered abilities cannot be played by that (card?) until end of turn. (Wording tricky here)
Split Second.
Rare?

That would be Interdict in its old form, I think. Maybe one of the purples?

extarbags · 09-17-2006, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornithopter

Uncommon? Why? That seems wholely unnecessary and blah blah blah I don't like it at all.

The original Counterspell was uncommon.

DrLambda · 09-17-2006, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guinea Pig

That would be the counterspells coming full circle, then. Many cards have hinted that 1UU "is supposed to be" the casting cost for countering with no strings attached, and I believe Aaron Forsythe said it once. Though I think MaRo said the opposite once.

That would be Interdict in its old form, I think. Maybe one of the purples?

It got split second.

You Are Not Pro · 09-17-2006, 03:17 PM

A card to replace hinder in Firemane Control. Yes! I like Time Spiral a lot. Maybe because I have 4 of every card. Pre-Order! Everybody should do it. I can't wait for the next 2 sets in the block to come out. It will be crazy.

Guinea Pig · 09-17-2006, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrLambda

It got split second.

Exactly, and Interdict used to be an Interrupt. Now that it is an Instant, you could simply reactivate certain activated ability.

Of course, now I realize that Interdict couldn't stop triggered abilities, so that idea is moot.

09-17-2006, 03:06 PM	#1
Hydrokinesis Rumormonger Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Manukau Heights, South Auckland Posts: 3,536 Blog Entries: 4	[TS] Cancel (Counterspell II), and Trickbind (Stifle II)... Greetings Fellow Rumor enthusiasts! (R_E mentioned me bringing the peanuts in all of y'all Snickers somehere so here goes...) [OfficialHydrodisclaimerincaseWOTCasks]...I posted this originally in the speculation forum yesteday, based on a small piece of information shown to me by a new, friendly, generous informer... I have a little more to the puzzle now, so here it is...[OfficialHydrodisclaimerincase WOTCasks] Cancel (was previously yet un-named "Counterspell II") Instant. Counter Target spell. Uncommon And this too: The yet un-named "Stifle II" Counter target activated or triggered ability. Further Activated or Triggered abilities cannot be played by that (card?) until end of turn. (Wording tricky here) Split Second. Rare? [OfficialHydrodisclaimerincaseWOTCasks]Note, these cards aren't 100% yet, but they've been hinted at strongly by a person or three so far. And, people keep PMing me to post it here, so here it is... Feel free to discuss, speculate on names, but please, no spamming the thread with cries of Fake. I've no reason to think these are fakes, and they get the [Official] Hydro Stamp of approval [/Official]! [OfficialHydrodisclaimerincaseWOTCasks] Enjoy! EDIT: Name found for the counterspell: Cancel! __________________ *...Water Wielding Hero of the Mighty Greek Alliance...* ...Catchphrase Guru...Rumor Enthusiast... Last edited by Hydrokinesis : 09-17-2006 at 03:42 PM.

09-17-2006, 03:10 PM	#3
Cornithopter Wizard Mentor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 603	Uncommon? Why? That seems wholely unnecessary and blah blah blah I don't like it at all. But I'm sure these cards are real, and both are cool. __________________ No Deck Needs 8 WOG's. The Bible = Tech

09-17-2006, 03:10 PM	#4
Fui Ascended Mage Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 276	thank you finally counter spell returns who cares if it is 3 we have rune snag and it might as well be counter spell cause its so strong... the stifle is sick probley better than the original.... __________________ Stop Tweakin' http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=149659

09-17-2006, 03:10 PM	#5
Omen Ascended Mage Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 353	It's a shame the counter is uncommon. The stifle's nice though. Do't know if it's quite that powerful. It may beat up the Husk decks or something though. Not much else. __________________ http://www.wizards.com/magic/images/...or_iswhite.jpg

09-17-2006, 03:11 PM	#6
Wildfire393 Pew Pew Pew - Lzr Lzr Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,262	Well, this appears to be the final death knell for counterspell. Nice to see a standard replacement for Hinder though. The new stifle is very cool. I predicted that they would "fix" interdict, and they have... IN SPADES! __________________ Regarding The Necronomicon: Me: What is this crap? This "Invocation of the Fire God" is just some bad poetry with random nonsense words in all capitals! Friend: So you mean its like the internet? http://vampireninja.chunkywolf.com Going to ACen 2008? I'm running the Magic events there.


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09-17-2006, 03:09 PM	#2
Lunan Wizard Mentor Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 692	a solid hard counter and that stifle ouch. this card is goign to hurt quite a few things in the format

09-17-2006, 03:12 PM	#7
Mr.C Ascended Mage Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 391	yay, now i can play type two again. Yes, i like playing boring decks, so what? Nah, actually, time Spiral is shaping up to be an interesting set, at least from the mono-color aspect. __________________ [Brazilian In Exile] Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz. Tatiana Natasha, I Love You Forever!

09-17-2006, 03:13 PM	#9
Absolutionis God Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: You live inside ME! Posts: 3,287	So, these cared are in Time Spiral? I guess the new Counterspell will replace Hinder quite well. I'm actually really hopeful and happy.

09-17-2006, 03:14 PM	#10
RMS Oceanic The Hibernian Moderator MTGS Editor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 4,218 Blog Entries: 2	At long last, Mystic Denial's fully grown brother enters the foray. This card has been speculated since Mirrodin, and it's finally here. First dibs on assuming it's a 10th/11th plant! The super-Stifle is awesome too. Take that, Psychatog! __________________ Founder of the Defunct [RMS] Clan Founder of the [wiki] Clan Banner by Austria Phantom What Card am I thinking of? (Rules) Something close to my heart Clan Word of the Week - Officialize

09-17-2006, 03:17 PM	#14
You Are Not Pro Archmage Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: California Posts: 953	A card to replace hinder in Firemane Control. Yes! I like Time Spiral a lot. Maybe because I have 4 of every card. Pre-Order! Everybody should do it. I can't wait for the next 2 sets in the block to come out. It will be crazy. __________________ \|\|Become A Better Player\|\|

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