Bob Maher's invitational card

Feather_Dragon · 03-13-2005, 11:25 PM

Dark Confidant

Scuirimancer · 03-13-2005, 11:43 PM

That's actually a pretty neat little card. Nice job, tourney guy.

I imagine they changed the ability to something like "At the beginning of your upkeep, reveal the top card of your library. You lose life equal to its converted mana cost, then put it into your hand."

Alex+ · 03-14-2005, 12:02 AM

I bet R&D changed the mana cost to 4BBB, made him a 0/2 and some sort of "you lose the game" drawback.
But if not, this guy could be very cool in some sort of Suicide-black. The only problem is, if you play big spells, you will die. Simple as that.
It's one of those cards that would have been good in an old deck but sucks now kinda cards.
I give it a 4/10.

Machius · 03-14-2005, 12:07 AM

We've know about this for a while it was announced ages ago. That said i'll repeat what i said back then that this is a very nice black weenie card, which gives good card advantage and is also alot easier for black to get rid of than enchantment based drawers like phyrexian arena, necropotence etc.

Alex+ · 03-14-2005, 01:02 AM

Lets look at this situation.

Phex. Arena: Must Draw a card at upkeep, Lose 1 life.
Necropotence: May Draw a card at end of turn, Lose 1 life.
Yawg. Bargin: May Draw a card, Lose 1 life.
Invitational Card: Must Draw a card at draw phase, Lose 0-13 life.

They need to make it a LOT better for it to be playable.

Penguinguru917 · 03-14-2005, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Lets look at this situation.

Phex. Arena: Must Draw a card at upkeep, Lose 1 life.
Necropotence: May Draw a card at end of turn, Lose 1 life.
Yawg. Bargin: May Draw a card, Lose 1 life.
Invitational Card: Must Draw a card at draw phase, Lose 0-13 life.

They need to make it a LOT better for it to be playable.

Yeah, as proposed that card is horrible. I'm hoping the tweaks made the card going into your hand optional. Such as you can shoose to put it in hand for life equal to CC, or put it in graveyard. However, paying life could still suck a lot.

Alex+ · 03-14-2005, 02:08 AM

I would love if they made it "You may pay X life where X in the cards converted mana cost, and put that card into play."

Goblinboy · 03-14-2005, 02:28 AM

Those comparisons are kind of silly. Bargain and Necro are both banned, and IMO this card is better than Arena. Draw a 2500th land? At least you take no damage. It costs only 2 (in current form) and has a body, which is excellent.

Considering that it's a creature, I'd imagine that this would go into an aggressive deck, where 2 life/turn = extra card/turn... on legs is SO worth it.

My guess at Wizard's version:

, 2/2, and ability optional.

-Goblinboy

nan · 03-14-2005, 03:07 AM

I like alex version with the put into play version a lot. It would be a aswome and very cool card. But Goblinboys suggestion would be more likley..

Caranthir · 03-14-2005, 03:42 AM

The initial submission is not good at all. The imperative is just wrong. I would like to see the optional X/X putting into play... and I agree with Goblinboy about the cc and P/T.

Edelmdor · 03-14-2005, 04:43 AM

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2/1 with the ability 'During each upkeep you reveal the top card of your library and must pay life equal to the card's converted casting cost and put it in your hand...

Each upkeep... just yours or both players' upkeeps?

Anyhow, i agree with Machius. This is a nice black weenie card... and can be easily removed if you had lost too much life.

Belgareth · 03-14-2005, 08:16 AM

It's ok , it isn't worst invitational, but it's no meddling mage

Xenphire · 03-14-2005, 08:48 AM

For a black card, in recent times, I consider this very good. However at the same time, I wonder what they've done to butcher it. I have no faith in R&D anymore.

Mr Bloody Minded · 03-14-2005, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Xenphire

I wonder what they've done to butcher it. I have no faith in R&D anymore.

They will have put it on a rat

Larraque · 03-14-2005, 09:32 AM

I think the ability will change to something like this:

0: Reveal the top card of your library. Lose life equal to its converted mana cost, then put that card into your hand.

03-13-2005, 11:25 PM	#1
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Scuirimancer '~' Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: IN Posts: 3,359 Blog Entries: 2	That's actually a pretty neat little card. Nice job, tourney guy. I imagine they changed the ability to something like "At the beginning of your upkeep, reveal the top card of your library. You lose life equal to its converted mana cost, then put it into your hand." __________________ "To pass through the jungle: silence, courtesy, ferocity, as the occasion demands." • My Decks • Recent Card Ideas • My Drawings at DeviantArt Cool Card Designers: Pharmalade, Eliminator, Marco, LSK, Chronoplasm, Mago Sanguvita, Athani, Fumar, Luminum Can, Sleeper Agent
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03-14-2005, 12:02 AM	#3
Alex+ Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,555	I bet R&D changed the mana cost to 4BBB, made him a 0/2 and some sort of "you lose the game" drawback. But if not, this guy could be very cool in some sort of Suicide-black. The only problem is, if you play big spells, you will die. Simple as that. It's one of those cards that would have been good in an old deck but sucks now kinda cards. I give it a 4/10. __________________
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03-14-2005, 01:02 AM	#5
Alex+ Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,555	Lets look at this situation. Phex. Arena: Must Draw a card at upkeep, Lose 1 life. Necropotence: May Draw a card at end of turn, Lose 1 life. Yawg. Bargin: May Draw a card, Lose 1 life. Invitational Card: Must Draw a card at draw phase, Lose 0-13 life. They need to make it a LOT better for it to be playable. __________________
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03-14-2005, 02:08 AM	#7
Alex+ Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,555	I would love if they made it "You may pay X life where X in the cards converted mana cost, and put that card into play." __________________
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03-14-2005, 02:28 AM	#8
Goblinboy a tree grows in tomatoes Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SE Portland, OR Posts: 6,352 Blog Entries: 11	Those comparisons are kind of silly. Bargain and Necro are both banned, and IMO this card is better than Arena. Draw a 2500th land? At least you take no damage. It costs only 2 (in current form) and has a body, which is excellent. Considering that it's a creature, I'd imagine that this would go into an aggressive deck, where 2 life/turn = extra card/turn... on legs is SO worth it. My guess at Wizard's version: , 2/2, and ability optional. -Goblinboy __________________ get a sig image if you have the energy to click the mouse, maybe you do. the world crumbles a little around us every day. each moment slightly dimmer than the last
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03-14-2005, 03:42 AM	#10
Caranthir Scion of Fire Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brno, CZ // Rochester, MN Posts: 6,594 Blog Entries: 1	The initial submission is not good at all. The imperative is just wrong. I would like to see the optional X/X putting into play... and I agree with Goblinboy about the cc and P/T. __________________ :mad1: 100% Vorthos Spike and Storyline Expert :mad1: Former Fact Prospector of the Greek Alliance. Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011) >>Banner by Spanglegluppet<< Extendo-sig
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03-14-2005, 08:48 AM	#13
Xenphire Strings and Attractors Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,223 Blog Entries: 26	For a black card, in recent times, I consider this very good. However at the same time, I wonder what they've done to butcher it. I have no faith in R&D anymore. __________________ Currently Playing: My Trade Thread Ghost Council of Orzhova (EDH) Humanimator (Standard) Aggro (Standard) Affinity (Modern/Legacy) Pox (Legacy) Death's Shadow (Legacy)
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03-14-2005, 09:32 AM	#15
Larraque Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 65	I think the ability will change to something like this: 0: Reveal the top card of your library. Lose life equal to its converted mana cost, then put that card into your hand.
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