You are all doing your business in your respective rooms when you hear, over the intercom that's been conveniently installed in the building, "Please proceed directly to the main hall." Knowing that request is backed by an army of guys with guns, you all follow it.
When you get there, the guys with guns are still there, and so's the head honcho. He sighs. "Regrettably, during our intermission from the action, there've been a few accidents." He motions for you all to follow him through his haunted hallway tour.
It's a remarkably short tour, however, as the only stop is at Cyan's room, where a bizarre scene greets you. Squiggler is lying on the ground just outside Cyan's door, which is coated in fresh, moist blood and what appears to be Squiggler's lunch. A few of you lose yours, but a few men in masks have the trashcans ready. Upon examination, Squiggler looks like he's had a run-on collision with a sawed-off shotgun.
The other victim of this time is Cyan himself, who's sitting in a chair in his room with the shotgun in his hand. The scene looked remarkably peaceful, save for the burn damage to his room. The MO in this case was a very clean stab wound to the neck, left there (along with the weapon itself) by a very sharp stiletto blade. There's a lot of blood around him, and you all could have sworn his shirt wasn't that red before. Upon inspection of the room, you find a few Purple Hearts and a newspaper clipping about the death of a few marines in Iraq.
You all wander over to Squiggler's room to check it out. The man in the mask kicks the door in, and you all discover... a very empty room. Just two cots and a toilet. However, a workman's garb in the closet tells you the truth about our mysterious friend. Especially because there's another one right next to it.
Cyan, Sergeant Matthew Park, the Traumatized Soldier - Trigger-Happy Townie and Squiggler, Zen - Town Clone, have been killed.
Continue.
(oh, and for future reference, when sending me a night action PM, title it specifically "Action". It makes my job easier.)
Based on how he acted towards Hyram at the end of the day (see 942) and his earlier attempts at clearing Hyram (see 435), I'm a more than little suspicious of Wuffles. I'm now questioning the extent of the parallelism between our roles. I'd like Wuffles to claim. If my theory on our roles paralleling each other was right then him claiming should not provide any information that is harmful if revealed and if my theory was wrong then I think he is definitely worth looking into as possible scum. Vote Wuffles for pressure.
With Chimpanzee leading the charge against Hyram on the poison mechanism, I find it hard to believe he's scum. Particularly since Hyram popped up as a godfather.
Based on their entrance information, I have little reason to suspect anything other than scum for this one, however.
Vote: Wuffles II
Furthermore, I received evidence last night that Cyan did not perform an action. My guess would be that his role "trigger-happy" fires at anyone who targets him. Squiggler, as town clone, could probably copy an ability and chose Cyan. Meaning Cyan was the mafia or SK target in all likelihood and the other was blocked/docced, etc.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
So, sure took you guys long enough to get to night. Oh, it turned out great with that lynch, but try tshoot for something a bit shorter next time. A bit less than a month would be acceptable, I think.
Perhaps I'll start with my thoughts on Day 1. I couldn't believe that whole "let's lynch the mod" thing, and I don't remember who said it, but I think they hit the nail on the head when they interpreted Xyre's claim as revealing roles and alignments of dead people, and that if he's lynched, the person proxying through him will die instead. I'm really annoyed that Swinkee got himself modkilled cause I liked his post restriction, but it's good to have it essentially confirmed that there is an SK in the game.
I'm amazed that we were told we have a free lynch if it's Wuffles or Chimp and nobody hardly even discussed it. Wuffles did in fact seriously defend Hyram, and one explanation is that Wuffles is scum with him.
That's all that jumps out at me to comment about, but if anybody wants comments on specific issues, then I'd be happy to go back and then post my thoughts.
As for targets for tonight, I'd like to start with Wuffles.
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I really think Hyram is going to turn up town, guys.
I'm really annoyed that this is based on nothing more than a gut feeling, except that he proved conclusively that he is a daykiller.
But, the mafia kill in the same way, probably, so I'm not entirely sure that my gut is right.
Sounds very much like he's still trying to prevent the Hyram lynch while leaving an out for himself in case Hyram really is lynched and revealed as the godfather. I think a Vote Wuffles is justified here.
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"Flesh so fine, so fine to tear, to gash the skin; skin to strip, to plait, so nice to plait the strips, so nice, so red the drops that fall; blood so red, so red, so sweet; sweet screams, pretty screams, singing screams, scream your song, sing your screams…” - The Eye of the World - Robert Jordan
is a far cry from the tune he's been singing in View Askew mafia.
Yes, I'm aware his alignment (and mine) are still unknown in that game. But it's still worth noting.
Dagger, loran, or bertrand is where I'd like to start today.
wow, yeah, because there's a point lynching a freaking one-shot dayvig, arim. He sure could do more damage. Plus, Serge was annoying me, anyways. Trying to speedlynch the godfather. How ridiculously antitown.
I had no reason beyond a gut feeling for trying to protect hyram. Only that this proves the mafia have at least one ability which goes off after a week's time.
And no, I'm not claiming. I do currrently have no win condition, however, and my name is Hillary Clinton, ( ) as everyone knows.
I think I agree with pursuing Wuffles today, and think a little more pressure is needed. His defense of Hyram, as well as the first few posts of his lead me to a Vote: Wuffles.
He claims that he currently has no win condition, is this the same for you Chimp, or would you rather not say?
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Sorry, forgot about that. Unvote. Waiting on info from Kenji.
Wuffles wasn't the only one defending Hyram, there at the end, but I guess it's true that he's the only one that offers us a free lynch. He's certainly worth taking a look at. Just speculation here, I know, but if he and Wuffles both don't have WCs, then my first guess would be that they gain their alignment based on the manner of death of their counterpart. If that's the case, then we get a free lynch, but the mafia might get a free member. Just an idea.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
But you have no thoughts on me? Some people keep expressing a notion that im scum. No one ever substantiated it, but... yeah.
Anyway, seems nice to have someone to actually present their thoughts, and for this game, any form of organization is nice
But, towards the end of the first day, i wanted SOMETHING to occur, as the game had slowed o a crawl.
Yet, in the end, we had a good end result.
Now i can take a breathe ^_^.
Lets start something random, VOTE DYH
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"The Critics always said that we'd only have a black president when pigs flu"...
So, Kenji is not Tyler. MS, are you? SG, do you still have multi votes? I remember noting that I thought it unlikely that Arimnaes and Hyram were co scum, I'm going to check on why, as other wise I still suspect him.
So, Kenji is not Tyler. MS, are you? SG, do you still have multi votes? I remember noting that I thought it unlikely that Arimnaes and Hyram were co scum, I'm going to check on why, as other wise I still suspect him.
I do, yes. Proof of such deferred pending the response of a PM from Xyre.
StormBlind, what exactly are you looking to do in regards to DYH?
As for Wuffles or Chimp being a free lynch, that was not the case. At one point I asked Xyre if such was the case and he said it was not. I still think that they are both town, merely on the basis of their entrance into the game.
Unvote Wuffles claim pretty much confirms my parallelism theory, so there isn't much of a point in pursuing him right now.
Also, based on Hyram's play late in the day, I'm strongly leaning town on arimnaes. He tried to divert his wagon by encouraging an attack on arimnaes. The timing and wording of the attack and arimnaes' response make me pretty sure that it was not a mafia ploy.
Ah, I had forgotten that Dagger had been forced to claim and he made it very obvious that he's The Narrator or Jack, and I am, indeed, Tyler Durden. I even put a subclaim in my first post, so now I'm sad. I'd rather not discuss abilities or lack thereof at the present time, but flavorwise, if only one of the two of us is town, it's the Narrator. Tyler was in fact out to take down civilization as we know it. Despite that, I can assure you that I'm town. Killing one or both of us could have strange effects. I think Dagger mentioned a sibling relationship, which is possible, although nothing like it was mentioned in my PM. Are siblings usually notified about that or not?
Sometime tomorrow, I'll try to go through and make a bigger info post of things that happened, and look for a suspect to go after today.
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Ah, I had forgotten that Dagger had been forced to claim and he made it very obvious that he's The Narrator or Jack, and I am, indeed, Tyler Durden. I even put a subclaim in my first post, so now I'm sad. I'd rather not discuss abilities or lack thereof at the present time, but flavorwise, if only one of the two of us is town, it's the Narrator. Tyler was in fact out to take down civilization as we know it. Despite that, I can assure you that I'm town. Killing one or both of us could have strange effects. I think Dagger mentioned a sibling relationship, which is possible, although nothing like it was mentioned in my PM. Are siblings usually notified about that or not?
Sometime tomorrow, I'll try to go through and make a bigger info post of things that happened, and look for a suspect to go after today.
Actually, that makes a hell of a lot of sense, if what you're claiming is that you're two separate parts of the same person like in Fight Club.
Thus, dagger can't post while your side of the split personality is in control.
Ah, I had forgotten that Dagger had been forced to claim and he made it very obvious that he's The Narrator or Jack, and I am, indeed, Tyler Durden. I even put a subclaim in my first post, so now I'm sad. I'd rather not discuss abilities or lack thereof at the present time, but flavorwise, if only one of the two of us is town, it's the Narrator. Tyler was in fact out to take down civilization as we know it. Despite that, I can assure you that I'm town. Killing one or both of us could have strange effects. I think Dagger mentioned a sibling relationship, which is possible, although nothing like it was mentioned in my PM. Are siblings usually notified about that or not?
Sometime tomorrow, I'll try to go through and make a bigger info post of things that happened, and look for a suspect to go after today.
MS, I don't that's going to be enough. Dagger was scummy by himself, and apparently his alter ego is supposed to be the bad one? I'm not immediately thinking of a great way to design a role with two people controlling it, but I'm not inclined to believe that they could both be town-aligned. Seriously, no one should be able to get away with claiming Tyler Durden under the best of circumstances, and you're claiming it when you already have the baggage of a very scummy player attached to it.
Vote Machin Shin.
If you can explain why your role is somehow separate from Dagger's, or some way in which Tyler Durden is not as bad a claim as Manute, I might unvote.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
So, it looks like Wuffles and Chimp may go to end game without ever getting a win condition now, sorry.
I've seen sibling roles that weren't explicitly told such. At the end of the movie, didn't the narrator shoot himself? I forget what effect this had on Tyler.
So, my suspects from day 1 were: The Godfather, Someone that tried to manipulate the Godfather, and a Mason. Damn, need new suspects.
Ah, I had forgotten that Dagger had been forced to claim and he made it very obvious that he's The Narrator or Jack, and I am, indeed, Tyler Durden. I even put a subclaim in my first post, so now I'm sad. I'd rather not discuss abilities or lack thereof at the present time, but flavorwise, if only one of the two of us is town, it's the Narrator. Tyler was in fact out to take down civilization as we know it. Despite that, I can assure you that I'm town. Killing one or both of us could have strange effects. I think Dagger mentioned a sibling relationship, which is possible, although nothing like it was mentioned in my PM. Are siblings usually notified about that or not?
Sometime tomorrow, I'll try to go through and make a bigger info post of things that happened, and look for a suspect to go after today.
Posts like this make my scum-dar go off like mad, and I haven't gotten a hit this big since the last time I was cop. (I have no idea which fourm it was on, but it was one of the spin-off fourms, and it was called netrunner or something like that, I pegged scum both investigations. (Scum still won though, don't get me started on CC as godfather.)
You just stated that "If one of us are town, it's not me. My role wanted to destroy organized civilization as we know it." Generally, Siblings have one scum and one town in it, but if one dies, so does the other. This is rarely a bad thing for the town, a 1-1 trade is great.
You just stated that you're a sibling and not the town half of that relationship. Unvote, Vote Machin Shin
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Still, MS, I think you'd at least better full claim.
The last time I thought that was when a SK with a tracker investigation on him claimed survivor to attempt to keep from being lynched. I'm also pretty sure he won't full claim without more pressure, and hopefully after everyone checks in. I'd like to see everyones reactions to what he's stated before he claims.
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*sigh* That's what I get for explaining things about the movie I'm from. Did you guys skip the part where I said I'm town? I'll go a step farther and say that I can prove my ability, although my ability isn't more likely to be scum or town. I threw in that part about Dagger being the most likely of us to be town is because people were talking about trying to lynch him, and even if we aren't full siblings, based on the movie, I think I'd die if he did. I'm the imaginary person, and in the movie, Dagger's character shoots himself in the mouth, and kills Tyler, my character. So, it's most likely that I could die and Dagger would live, but if he dies, I would too. Or we could be siblings. Or we might not be connected at all, besides only one of us posting at any given time. Or the one who's alive might take over night and day posts. I have no idea. There was nothing about that in my PM, only that I can only post at night.
Second, as far as this:
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If you can explain why your role is somehow separate from Dagger's, or some way in which Tyler Durden is not as bad a claim as Manute, I might unvote.
I don't know how my role is seperate from or connected to Dagger's. I only brought up the possibility of siblings because I don't want you killing him, causing me to die in the process. As far as Tyler being not as bad as Manute, I dunno, I still haven't seen Sin City. Judging from the reaction that claim got in the mafia game, it was clearly a bloodthirsty killer guy that nobody would ever mistake for anything resembling town. Yes, Tyler was anti-establishment and somewhat of an anarchist, but does that mean that he's behind the strange whatever that happened in this town? How do you see Tyler Durden somehow connected to Agent Kenneth Jacobson, Hyram's role?
I probably shouldn't have said anything about anything, is that what you guys are saying? I'm Tyler Durden, I'm town, I have a provable ability. That's fact. The speculation is that I'm somehow connected to Dagger's role. Does that clear things up?
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Wuffles: If the speculation that the remaining player will gain a WC based on who killed them is true, which given Xyre's post about you two I think is correct; then, neither of you may never be killed.
Well, MS certainly isn't looking any better. I think a full claim is in order.
I'll go a step farther and say that I can prove my ability, although my ability isn't more likely to be scum or town. I threw in that part about Dagger being the most likely of us to be town is because people were talking about trying to lynch him, and even if we aren't full siblings, based on the movie, I think I'd die if he did.
So basically what you're saying is:
1.) You have a scummy role-name.
2.) You are a possible sibling with someone who you are claiming is unequivically town. (And also saying you are more likely to be scum than them)
3.) You have an ability that you can prove. (90% of abilities are provable, so I don't see how this is in your favor at all)
4.) The ability that you claim to have is not nessacarily a town ability.
I'm the imaginary person, and in the movie, Dagger's character shoots himself in the mouth, and kills Tyler, my character. So, it's most likely that I could die and Dagger would live, but if he dies, I would too. Or we could be siblings. Or we might not be connected at all, besides only one of us posting at any given time. Or the one who's alive might take over night and day posts. I have no idea. There was nothing about that in my PM, only that I can only post at night.
I don't know how my role is seperate from or connected to Dagger's. I only brought up the possibility of siblings because I don't want you killing him, causing me to die in the process. As far as Tyler being not as bad as Manute, I dunno, I still haven't seen Sin City. Judging from the reaction that claim got in the mafia game, it was clearly a bloodthirsty killer guy that nobody would ever mistake for anything resembling town. Yes, Tyler was anti-establishment and somewhat of an anarchist, but does that mean that he's behind the strange whatever that happened in this town? How do you see Tyler Durden somehow connected to Agent Kenneth Jacobson, Hyram's role?
1.) Tyler blew up a city. Hundreds, possibly thousands of innocent people died. Bad? Yes. Cool? Hell yeah.
2.) We have no idea what happened in this town, but I bet you bad people had something to do with it. Since you want to bring game flavor into it; flavorfully, you're a bad guy. So I'm asssuming your scum, and thus, part of the problem.
3.) Agent Kenneth Jacobson, cover up man. Tyler was the leader of an underground cult, which had it's hands in the honeypot of sociatial connections. There were multiple detectives involved in Fight Club who helped to cover up the entire scheme. If you've seen the movie, you may recall an incident with a knife and someones family jewels inside a police station.
I probably shouldn't have said anything about anything, is that what you guys are saying? I'm Tyler Durden, I'm town, I have a provable ability. That's fact. The speculation is that I'm somehow connected to Dagger's role. Does that clear things up?
None of those are fact. Those are things you've stated. They will remain suspect until otherwise proven. When you're lynched for the scum you are, then your role name and alignment will be fact. The speculation is all about the flavor between the connection between your and Dagger's roles.
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Tyler blew up a city. Hundreds, possibly thousands of innocent people died. Bad? Yes. Cool? Hell yeah.
Well, to be perfectly accurate, Tyler didn't actually kill very many people. One of the major points of the whole crime organization was to develop enough clout to be able to clear the buildings he wanted destroyed, so that no one would be hurt (though I have no doubt that lots of people were hurt anyway, he went to quite a bit of effort to prevent the largest portion of collateral damage). Also, he didn't blow up a city; he blew up select parts of lots of cities.
Despite that, MS's reaction doesn't do anything for me. It looks a lot like he's just trying to get people to look elsewhere by claiming that more info will be available on his role later on, but there's no reason for that if that info won't clear him. He's scummy now. I want to hear a claim, and I expect this to go to a lynch.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
I'm a little worried about comming close to lynching accidentally so I won't vote until we get another vote count, but MS's acctions so far this night are enough to convince me he should claim - and probably get lynched, too.
If his claim won't prove anything, his flavor is bad, and his other half isn't looking any better...
This is what I get for not being able to start the game, and of course for my "other half" so to speak getting himself in a position to be forced to claim. Once again, I will state that I have no idea whether or not we are linked, but I suspect it from flavor that we are. I'm looking at you, WoLG.
My PM is mostly just flavor that sounds quite a bit like Tyler's big speeches from the movie, and I imagine somewhat like the book too. He talks about people and their little furniture catalogues and their 3 easy payments of $89.95. Anywho, onto ability.
I am a motivator. Each night, I can choose a target, and any abilities they use that take effect the next day will be doubled. Since Ged claimed doc, and I didn't remember any player still alive that claimed an ability, I planned on using my ability on him tonight, although I have no idea if his ability takes effect in day or whatever. I figured it was better than guessing, and hitting mafia or SK or a random Az-WoLGing vig. Obviously I'm not going to suggest that somebody with an ability claim so I can use my ability on them. For one, it would give the mafia another claim to work with, and it would make me seem even more scummy than I somehow made myself already. Ged will be my target, assuming of course I live through the day, and he can use his 2 doc protects, and then tell you all about the extra use of his ability that he gained.
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Not to metagame too much, but I always think Fayul is overzealous and using that to skip posting content. Every game I've been in with her, I want to lynch her because I always think she's scummy.
As for WoLG, I didn't remember reading that, and I'll see what I can find during my reread about him.
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17. carrion_pigeons - Emeru Mashaka - Mafia Narrator/Mason
Sleeping Soundly Now
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chamberserge - Marjorie O'Deuce - Town Cop/Vig - Poisoned Day 118. Swinkee - Jimmy Card - Demonic Townie/Neutral Serial Killer Backup - Assassinated (Modkill) Day 1
15. Hyram - Agent Kenneth Jacobson - Mafia Godfather - Lynched Day 1
13. Cyan - Matthew Park - Trigger-Happy Townie - Stepped on Night 1
11. squiggler - Zen - Town Clone - Blown away Night 1
8. Fayul - Ahmed Alkanazar - Aggressive Townie - Hoist upon his petard (Modkill) Night 1
16. Arimnaes - Asher - Town Clone - Poisoned Night 1
21. Bertrand - Raleigh Pine - Town Illusionist - Lynched Night 1
1. WellofLostGnomes - Q - Neutral Survivor - Lynched Day 2
X. Xyre - Xyre - Neutral Mod Proxy - Plugged Night 2
9. Disrupt_Your_Hymm - Trevor West - Town Absentee - Hunted down Night 2
19. Kenji - Xavier Molotov - Serial Killer - Lynched Night 2
12. stormblind - Jennifer Noble - Town Jack-of-all-Trades - Ninja'd Day 3
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Loran16TreigitLoran16 - Andrew Meadows - Townie/Cult Leader - Gunned down (Modkill) Day 310. creampuffeater - Marv - Town Cop/Roleblocker - Lynched Day 3
4. ZeDorkSlipeur - Curtis Wise - Mafia Illusionist - Lynched Night 3
14. SorryGuy - Arthur Craig - Town Gambler - Lynched Day 4
5. Wrath of Dog - Dr. Ryan West - Town Mad Scientist - Diced Night 4
6. Jobie - Kal - Mafia Roleblocker - Lynched Night 4
2. Ged - Dr. Paul Hallow - Town Doctor - Destroyed Day 5
24. Wuffles II - Hillary Clinton - Candidate - Lynched Day 5
23. Chimpanzee - John McCain - Candidate - Lynched Day 5 Part 2
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Machin ShinNiv-Mizzet the Firemind - Tyler Durden - Town Doubler - Lynched Night 525. Cubus - Richard Green - Town Dead Man - Killed in endgame
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LookingforRealitySutherlands - Sarah Oleander - Town Martyr/Mason - Killed in endgameRules
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Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
The game begins with a Day start.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Bertrand and LookingforReality have been pulled into the game.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
When you get there, the guys with guns are still there, and so's the head honcho. He sighs. "Regrettably, during our intermission from the action, there've been a few accidents." He motions for you all to follow him through his haunted hallway tour.
It's a remarkably short tour, however, as the only stop is at Cyan's room, where a bizarre scene greets you. Squiggler is lying on the ground just outside Cyan's door, which is coated in fresh, moist blood and what appears to be Squiggler's lunch. A few of you lose yours, but a few men in masks have the trashcans ready. Upon examination, Squiggler looks like he's had a run-on collision with a sawed-off shotgun.
The other victim of this time is Cyan himself, who's sitting in a chair in his room with the shotgun in his hand. The scene looked remarkably peaceful, save for the burn damage to his room. The MO in this case was a very clean stab wound to the neck, left there (along with the weapon itself) by a very sharp stiletto blade. There's a lot of blood around him, and you all could have sworn his shirt wasn't that red before. Upon inspection of the room, you find a few Purple Hearts and a newspaper clipping about the death of a few marines in Iraq.
You all wander over to Squiggler's room to check it out. The man in the mask kicks the door in, and you all discover... a very empty room. Just two cots and a toilet. However, a workman's garb in the closet tells you the truth about our mysterious friend. Especially because there's another one right next to it.
Cyan, Sergeant Matthew Park, the Traumatized Soldier - Trigger-Happy Townie and Squiggler, Zen - Town Clone, have been killed.
Continue.
(oh, and for future reference, when sending me a night action PM, title it specifically "Action". It makes my job easier.)
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Wonder what those guys did - quite a shame to lose Cyan particularly.
Kenji? What's happening?
Hey, you! Yeah, you behind the computer screen! You're unconstitutional.
America == Velociraptor
Play IRC mafia. (/join #mafia)
Vote Wuffles for pressure.
3CB and 4CB5CB!is a far cry from the tune he's been singing in View Askew mafia.
Yes, I'm aware his alignment (and mine) are still unknown in that game. But it's still worth noting.
Dagger, loran, or bertrand is where I'd like to start today.
Anyway, where were we going from yesterday?
Based on their entrance information, I have little reason to suspect anything other than scum for this one, however.
Vote: Wuffles II
Furthermore, I received evidence last night that Cyan did not perform an action. My guess would be that his role "trigger-happy" fires at anyone who targets him. Squiggler, as town clone, could probably copy an ability and chose Cyan. Meaning Cyan was the mafia or SK target in all likelihood and the other was blocked/docced, etc.
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At some point, you'll learn my super secret identity.
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Anyway, Vote Dagger. One of the advantages to this format is that there's no need to lose momentum on an active case.
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It just seems like a bad idea to lynch someone not here. At least bring it up with Kenji.
Crap.
There goes my theory.
Unvote.
Perhaps I'll start with my thoughts on Day 1. I couldn't believe that whole "let's lynch the mod" thing, and I don't remember who said it, but I think they hit the nail on the head when they interpreted Xyre's claim as revealing roles and alignments of dead people, and that if he's lynched, the person proxying through him will die instead. I'm really annoyed that Swinkee got himself modkilled cause I liked his post restriction, but it's good to have it essentially confirmed that there is an SK in the game.
I'm amazed that we were told we have a free lynch if it's Wuffles or Chimp and nobody hardly even discussed it. Wuffles did in fact seriously defend Hyram, and one explanation is that Wuffles is scum with him.
That's all that jumps out at me to comment about, but if anybody wants comments on specific issues, then I'd be happy to go back and then post my thoughts.
As for targets for tonight, I'd like to start with Wuffles.
Sounds very much like he's still trying to prevent the Hyram lynch while leaving an out for himself in case Hyram really is lynched and revealed as the godfather. I think a Vote Wuffles is justified here.
wow, yeah, because there's a point lynching a freaking one-shot dayvig, arim. He sure could do more damage. Plus, Serge was annoying me, anyways. Trying to speedlynch the godfather. How ridiculously antitown.
I had no reason beyond a gut feeling for trying to protect hyram. Only that this proves the mafia have at least one ability which goes off after a week's time.
And no, I'm not claiming. I do currrently have no win condition, however, and my name is Hillary Clinton, ( ) as everyone knows.
He claims that he currently has no win condition, is this the same for you Chimp, or would you rather not say?
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Waiting on info from Kenji.
Wuffles wasn't the only one defending Hyram, there at the end, but I guess it's true that he's the only one that offers us a free lynch. He's certainly worth taking a look at. Just speculation here, I know, but if he and Wuffles both don't have WCs, then my first guess would be that they gain their alignment based on the manner of death of their counterpart. If that's the case, then we get a free lynch, but the mafia might get a free member. Just an idea.
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Anyway, seems nice to have someone to actually present their thoughts, and for this game, any form of organization is nice
But, towards the end of the first day, i wanted SOMETHING to occur, as the game had slowed o a crawl.
Yet, in the end, we had a good end result.
Now i can take a breathe ^_^.
Lets start something random, VOTE DYH
I do, yes. Proof of such deferred pending the response of a PM from Xyre.
StormBlind, what exactly are you looking to do in regards to DYH?
As for Wuffles or Chimp being a free lynch, that was not the case. At one point I asked Xyre if such was the case and he said it was not. I still think that they are both town, merely on the basis of their entrance into the game.
Also, based on Hyram's play late in the day, I'm strongly leaning town on arimnaes. He tried to divert his wagon by encouraging an attack on arimnaes. The timing and wording of the attack and arimnaes' response make me pretty sure that it was not a mafia ploy.
3CB and 4CB5CB!Sometime tomorrow, I'll try to go through and make a bigger info post of things that happened, and look for a suspect to go after today.
Thus, dagger can't post while your side of the split personality is in control. Actually, that makes a hell of a lot of sense, if what you're claiming is that you're two separate parts of the same person like in Fight Club.
MS, I don't that's going to be enough. Dagger was scummy by himself, and apparently his alter ego is supposed to be the bad one? I'm not immediately thinking of a great way to design a role with two people controlling it, but I'm not inclined to believe that they could both be town-aligned. Seriously, no one should be able to get away with claiming Tyler Durden under the best of circumstances, and you're claiming it when you already have the baggage of a very scummy player attached to it.
Vote Machin Shin.
If you can explain why your role is somehow separate from Dagger's, or some way in which Tyler Durden is not as bad a claim as Manute, I might unvote.
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So, it looks like Wuffles and Chimp may go to end game without ever getting a win condition now, sorry.
I've seen sibling roles that weren't explicitly told such. At the end of the movie, didn't the narrator shoot himself? I forget what effect this had on Tyler.
So, my suspects from day 1 were: The Godfather, Someone that tried to manipulate the Godfather, and a Mason. Damn, need new suspects.
Posts like this make my scum-dar go off like mad, and I haven't gotten a hit this big since the last time I was cop. (I have no idea which fourm it was on, but it was one of the spin-off fourms, and it was called netrunner or something like that, I pegged scum both investigations. (Scum still won though, don't get me started on CC as godfather.)
You just stated that "If one of us are town, it's not me. My role wanted to destroy organized civilization as we know it." Generally, Siblings have one scum and one town in it, but if one dies, so does the other. This is rarely a bad thing for the town, a 1-1 trade is great.
You just stated that you're a sibling and not the town half of that relationship. Unvote, Vote Machin Shin
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Still, MS, I think you'd at least better full claim.
The last time I thought that was when a SK with a tracker investigation on him claimed survivor to attempt to keep from being lynched. I'm also pretty sure he won't full claim without more pressure, and hopefully after everyone checks in. I'd like to see everyones reactions to what he's stated before he claims.
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What do you mean? Do you know something I don't?
Second, as far as this:
I don't know how my role is seperate from or connected to Dagger's. I only brought up the possibility of siblings because I don't want you killing him, causing me to die in the process. As far as Tyler being not as bad as Manute, I dunno, I still haven't seen Sin City. Judging from the reaction that claim got in the mafia game, it was clearly a bloodthirsty killer guy that nobody would ever mistake for anything resembling town. Yes, Tyler was anti-establishment and somewhat of an anarchist, but does that mean that he's behind the strange whatever that happened in this town? How do you see Tyler Durden somehow connected to Agent Kenneth Jacobson, Hyram's role?
I probably shouldn't have said anything about anything, is that what you guys are saying? I'm Tyler Durden, I'm town, I have a provable ability. That's fact. The speculation is that I'm somehow connected to Dagger's role. Does that clear things up?
is in fact the case, then having a provable ability doesn't make you confirmable as town.
Well, MS certainly isn't looking any better. I think a full claim is in order.
1.) Since when has stating that you're town convinced anyone?
2.)
is not convincing.
So basically what you're saying is:
1.) You have a scummy role-name.
2.) You are a possible sibling with someone who you are claiming is unequivically town. (And also saying you are more likely to be scum than them)
3.) You have an ability that you can prove. (90% of abilities are provable, so I don't see how this is in your favor at all)
4.) The ability that you claim to have is not nessacarily a town ability.
I don't see how any of that makes you town.
Self preservation will not help the town.
1.) Tyler blew up a city. Hundreds, possibly thousands of innocent people died. Bad? Yes. Cool? Hell yeah.
2.) We have no idea what happened in this town, but I bet you bad people had something to do with it. Since you want to bring game flavor into it; flavorfully, you're a bad guy. So I'm asssuming your scum, and thus, part of the problem.
3.) Agent Kenneth Jacobson, cover up man. Tyler was the leader of an underground cult, which had it's hands in the honeypot of sociatial connections. There were multiple detectives involved in Fight Club who helped to cover up the entire scheme. If you've seen the movie, you may recall an incident with a knife and someones family jewels inside a police station.
None of those are fact. Those are things you've stated. They will remain suspect until otherwise proven. When you're lynched for the scum you are, then your role name and alignment will be fact. The speculation is all about the flavor between the connection between your and Dagger's roles.
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Well, to be perfectly accurate, Tyler didn't actually kill very many people. One of the major points of the whole crime organization was to develop enough clout to be able to clear the buildings he wanted destroyed, so that no one would be hurt (though I have no doubt that lots of people were hurt anyway, he went to quite a bit of effort to prevent the largest portion of collateral damage). Also, he didn't blow up a city; he blew up select parts of lots of cities.
Despite that, MS's reaction doesn't do anything for me. It looks a lot like he's just trying to get people to look elsewhere by claiming that more info will be available on his role later on, but there's no reason for that if that info won't clear him. He's scummy now. I want to hear a claim, and I expect this to go to a lynch.
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"I said I was town so I must not be scum." Brilliant! Most logically sound argument I've ever heard!
3CB and 4CB5CB!If his claim won't prove anything, his flavor is bad, and his other half isn't looking any better...
My PM is mostly just flavor that sounds quite a bit like Tyler's big speeches from the movie, and I imagine somewhat like the book too. He talks about people and their little furniture catalogues and their 3 easy payments of $89.95. Anywho, onto ability.
I am a motivator. Each night, I can choose a target, and any abilities they use that take effect the next day will be doubled. Since Ged claimed doc, and I didn't remember any player still alive that claimed an ability, I planned on using my ability on him tonight, although I have no idea if his ability takes effect in day or whatever. I figured it was better than guessing, and hitting mafia or SK or a random Az-WoLGing vig. Obviously I'm not going to suggest that somebody with an ability claim so I can use my ability on them. For one, it would give the mafia another claim to work with, and it would make me seem even more scummy than I somehow made myself already. Ged will be my target, assuming of course I live through the day, and he can use his 2 doc protects, and then tell you all about the extra use of his ability that he gained.
[Either that or a restriction not to use it on his buddies]
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I have still had something done
Oh, btw, for later, BABY'S BREATH.
What?
I didn't understand a thing you just said :S
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As for WoLG, I didn't remember reading that, and I'll see what I can find during my reread about him.