Seeing Legacy's Future

Mr. Nightmare · 05-09-2007, 11:05 PM

This thread is for the discussion of my latest article, Seeing Legacy's Future. We would be grateful if you would let us know what you think, but please keep your comments on topic.

z38gm · 05-09-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nightmare

This thread is for the discussion of my latest article, Seeing Legacy's Future. We would be grateful if you would let us know what you think, but please keep your comments on topic.

Very good article, nice read...and yeah flash is well gonna own the GP...

JayC · 05-09-2007, 11:37 PM

I liked it, although I am not a Legacy player it was enjoyable

Thanks man.

Jade · 05-09-2007, 11:55 PM

Well done, best legacy article I've read for a long time. Why does WotC ignore us?

Shaharazad · 05-10-2007, 02:03 AM

Great read Mr. Nightmare! The quality was leaps and bounds above most of the pro's articles I've read. Thanks.

Neon-chan · 05-10-2007, 02:50 AM

Nice article

perhaps you should have mentioned that the Jailer also hosses Rifter Decks by shutting down the triggered "when you cycle ~" abilities

Sacul Kamadaka · 05-10-2007, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jade

Well done, best legacy article I've read for a long time. Why does WotC ignore us?

Because Legacy and Vintage are eternal formats, they do not cycle, so we don't have to buy pack of cards every 3 months.

Corporately speaking, eternal formats are worse for the company then standard or even extended.

Isamaru · 05-10-2007, 07:05 AM

I was planning on making a shirt with a similar message, but I may end up using the image you created now instead

Just want to get the message across that Wizards of the Coast never fails to make the worst decisions.

G0-DRAW · 05-10-2007, 10:29 AM

Mana (20)
4x Lotus Petal
4x Elvish Spirit Guide
4x Simian Spirit Guide
4x Island
4x Gemstone Cavern

Combo Pieces (16)
4x Summoner's Pact
4x Protean Hulk
4x Mystical Tutor
4x Flash
Combo Creatures (12)
4x Disciple of the Vault
4x Phyrexian Marauder
4x Shifting WallCounters (8)
4x Force of Will
4x Pact of Negation

Thinning the deck (4)
4x Street Wraith

And where is the sacrificing component to this plan?... Need a certain Atog or Arcbound Ravager?

I stand corrected nevermind. I FORGOT THAT CREATURES DIE WITH X / for a while now.

Anarky87 · 05-10-2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by G0-DRAW

Mana (20)
4x Lotus Petal
4x Elvish Spirit Guide
4x Simian Spirit Guide
4x Island
4x Gemstone Cavern

Combo Pieces (16)
4x Summoner's Pact
4x Protean Hulk
4x Mystical Tutor
4x Flash
Combo Creatures (12)
4x Disciple of the Vault
4x Phyrexian Marauder
4x Shifting WallCounters (8)
4x Force of Will
4x Pact of Negation

Thinning the deck (4)
4x Street Wraith

And where is the sacrificing component to this plan?... Need a certain Atog or Arcbound Ravager?

No, you don't need a sac outlet. You Flash in Hulk, choose not to pay the difference, Hulk dies, you go fetch 4 Disciples and your slew of artifact creatures and put them into play. Shifting Wall/Marauder die, being that they are 0/0, and each trigger Disciple for an absurd amount of life loss to you. Without ever getting priority. Why do you need Atog or Ravager again?

BadMojo · 05-10-2007, 11:43 AM

I guess this means 4 Leyline of the Void in the SB will be in demand, right?

Leyline on Turn 0 and that will buy you several turns until you figure out how to deal with them.

SlideGob · 05-10-2007, 11:49 AM

Is Future Sight even legal for Columbus, it starts on the 19th, the day before it becomes legal.

Neon-chan · 05-10-2007, 11:59 AM

No it´s not legal at columbus

Guerilla · 05-10-2007, 12:05 PM

I see I was beaten to the post. Thank goodness it isn't, because I wouldn't even play in the event if it was. (I live in Ohio, so it's not far)

I know of a couple of people who quit legacy just because of Hulk-flash. I'm done with the format after the 20th, myself. You're 100% on target, Nightmare.

SlideGob · 05-10-2007, 12:11 PM

Come on guys you have to give these absurd decks one tournament. That way when the format is better again, you can look back and say those old days were crazy. Surely Flash will be errated again or more than likely banned. Do you guys think it will be restricted in T1? The deck is crazy still, it would just have to find a replacement for Mystical tutors 2-4.

05-09-2007, 11:05 PM	#1
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05-10-2007, 02:03 AM	#5
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05-10-2007, 10:29 AM	#9
G0-DRAW Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fremont, Nebraska Posts: 593	Need a little help here?... by G0-DRAW Mana (20) 4x Lotus Petal 4x Elvish Spirit Guide 4x Simian Spirit Guide 4x Island 4x Gemstone Cavern Combo Pieces (16) 4x Summoner's Pact 4x Protean Hulk 4x Mystical Tutor 4x Flash Combo Creatures (12) 4x Disciple of the Vault 4x Phyrexian Marauder 4x Shifting WallCounters (8) 4x Force of Will 4x Pact of Negation Thinning the deck (4) 4x Street Wraith And where is the sacrificing component to this plan?... Need a certain Atog or Arcbound Ravager? I stand corrected nevermind. I FORGOT THAT CREATURES DIE WITH X / for a while now. __________________ TRY EMOCROQUET "I wish my grass was EMO so it would cut itself." -Anonymous" www.girlgeniusonline.com/ www.zapgunforhire.com/ www.joshkeyes.net/index.htm www.lfgcomic.com GOOD READS! -> http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=99103 http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=82817 http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=83042 http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=93436 Last edited by G0-DRAW : 05-10-2007 at 10:57 AM. Reason: my bad


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05-10-2007, 02:50 AM	#6
Neon-chan Have you tried to turn it off and on again Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,454	Nice article perhaps you should have mentioned that the Jailer also hosses Rifter Decks by shutting down the triggered "when you cycle ~" abilities

05-10-2007, 11:43 AM	#11
BadMojo Experienced Mage Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 64	I guess this means 4 Leyline of the Void in the SB will be in demand, right? Leyline on Turn 0 and that will buy you several turns until you figure out how to deal with them.

05-10-2007, 11:49 AM	#12
SlideGob Ascended Mage Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 282	Is Future Sight even legal for Columbus, it starts on the 19th, the day before it becomes legal.

05-10-2007, 11:59 AM	#13
Neon-chan Have you tried to turn it off and on again Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,454	No it´s not legal at columbus __________________ current rating total: 1961 limited: 1907 Propoints 09: 1 #-times beaten the player with the highes rating worldwide: 1 ^^ DCI Magic Rules Advisor

05-10-2007, 12:05 PM	#14
Guerilla Experienced Mage Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 121	I see I was beaten to the post. Thank goodness it isn't, because I wouldn't even play in the event if it was. (I live in Ohio, so it's not far) I know of a couple of people who quit legacy just because of Hulk-flash. I'm done with the format after the 20th, myself. You're 100% on target, Nightmare.

05-10-2007, 12:11 PM	#15
SlideGob Ascended Mage Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 282	Come on guys you have to give these absurd decks one tournament. That way when the format is better again, you can look back and say those old days were crazy. Surely Flash will be errated again or more than likely banned. Do you guys think it will be restricted in T1? The deck is crazy still, it would just have to find a replacement for Mystical tutors 2-4.

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