In a game of mafia, the 2 basic roles are Townie and Mafioso. In this game, the town will be made up of those trying to figure out who the bad guys are and stop them from killing. For the town to win, they must kill all members of the mafia. Most townies have only one tool: the lynch.
-While the game is in "Day" mode, any player may post in the thread. They may also FOS or Vote.
-FOS stands for Finger of Suspision. It has no direct bearing on the game, but it is a nice way to let everyone know who you are suspicious of.
-When any one player has reached a number of votes equal to the majority of the players in the game, that player will be lynched and the game will go into night.
-Votes, Unvotes, and FOSes should be bolded.
The mafia will win when they exceed or equal the town in number(at which point, they control the lynch). They may also post during the day and use Votes and FOSes. However, they have another tool: the ability to nightkill.
-While the game is in night, the mafia may communicate with each other.
-Then, one of them will send me the name of 1 player to be killed.
- Additionally, some players may have a Night Ability. Those players should send me their night choices as well.
-Once I have received the mafia's Night Choice, as well as the choice of any other player with a Night Ability, I will post a morning scene, and Day will start.
Rules:
0. The golden rule: when in doubt, ask me.
1. This is a game. As such, it's supposed to be fun for all involved. Do your part to make it happen.
2. Try to post at least once every 48 hours, the more the better. If you expect to be unavailable for some time, please notify me.
3. Whatever you post, stays on permanent record. No editing or deleting posts, ever. If you messed up the tags or somesuch, fix it by double-posting, not editing.
4. No posting at night.
5. No talking about the game outside the thread, unless your role specifically allows it, and then only at night.
6. No quoting PMs from the moderator, including your role PM. If necessary, you may paraphrase very loosely.
7. Once your death scene was posted, you're dead. Stop posting. A single "bah, go town/mafia!" post is ok, but nothing more than that.
8. All votes and unvotes in bold, such: vote Alx2 or unvote. It's not necessary to unvote before casting a new vote, but I'll appreciate it. You may also FoS players, which stands for Finger of Suspicion. It has no game effect, but it's a graphic way to let people know who you're suspicious of.
9. Lynching requires a regular majority of votes. Once a player reaches that majority, he will be lynched even if someone unvotes him later.
10.If you have a night choice to make, it's due by the posted deadline.
The mandatory "let's not go there" section:
- I reserve the right to replace a player for gross or repeated violations of rules 1 or 2.
- I reserve the right to modkill a player for violations of rules 3, 4, 5 or 6.
- I reserve the right to request the mafia council to blacklist a player for particularly gross violations of rules 1 or 7.
All town players have this win condition in their role PM: You win when all mafia are eliminated.
We live in a country were ~50% of the populace believe public schooling is a socialist conspiracy and that being called Einstein is an insult. We could try and fix it, but unfortunately the other 50% don't believe in euthanasia.
Vote: AK if he's town in mushroom, he HAS to be scum here
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Important note: The point of bolding votes is for the mod to be able to easily see the vote. If your entire post (including the vote) is in bold, that kind of defeats the purpose.
In the future, I'll only could votes if the vote is in bold, while the post itself isn't.
We live in a country were ~50% of the populace believe public schooling is a socialist conspiracy and that being called Einstein is an insult. We could try and fix it, but unfortunately the other 50% don't believe in euthanasia.
we're still in random voting stage. bandwagons are bad. besides, it's still the 1st page! (or should be, trust me, it's a ton easier to read games at 40ppp (posts per page))
and I'll unvote for now...we'll run up someone eventually.
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We live in a country were ~50% of the populace believe public schooling is a socialist conspiracy and that being called Einstein is an insult. We could try and fix it, but unfortunately the other 50% don't believe in euthanasia.
I'd love to end random voting, but there are no significantly scummy players yet, and so a serious bandwagon is out of the question. So, any ideas for discussion?
[My Idea] I'm not particularly a fan of this plan, but we could do a soft claim on what type of heavenly body we are (Stars, planets, moons, comets, etc). I'd rather not, but if we have nothing else to talk about, this could kick things off.
We can discuss which heavenly bodies we are, but I don't particuarly see what it would help, as unlike characters, certain planets, moons and stars are not usually connected to good and evil (except possibly Mars and Pluto)
QFT, it doesn't seem to do much good as of right now anyway, seems like claims come much later from what I've seen of games on the forums; we are only a few posts into this game.
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QFT, it doesn't seem to do much good as of right now anyway, seems like claims come much later from what I've seen of games on the forums; we are only a few posts into this game.
Full claims, such as names and abilities, come later in the game. A minor claim now would lock people into certain claims. If all the mafia were stars, for instance, we could see the pattern (if not now, then later). Also, if anyone changes their claim (they say moon now, claim a planet later), we have an auto-lynch. Its often not worth it, nor necessary, but if we have nothing else to discuss, its a valid option. However, Yuan's vote may start discussion anyways.
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I'm wondering why there are 3 votes on me in the first 2 pages?
WTF?
Binary isn't the problem as the first voter, but Archy is either the dumbest thing since [insert analogy here], or the most scummy thing since [insert analogy 2 here]
Unvote, Vote: Archy
Ever since newb 12, I don't think a random vote bandwagon outs scum in a newb game (it was all town in that game). You're still nowhere near lynch range Yuan, no need to panic.
YuanTi, I don't think you're in danger just yet. I mean, we're still in the randomvoting stage, there's no precedent to trying to bandwagon you, and any scum trying to speedlynch at this point in time would be incredibly obvious.
I have reason to beleive that Pluto is not Town-aligned, if it's in the game. Not becuase of an ability, just a hunch about what's happened recently...
you may now return to your regularly scheduled bandwagonning of me...
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I have reason to beleive that Pluto is not Town-aligned, if it's in the game. Not becuase of an ability, just a hunch about what's happened recently...
you may now return to your regularly scheduled bandwagonning of me...
This would imply town/scum alignments revolve around solar system/planets/whatever, which is game setup speculation. All speculation does at this stage of the game is attempt to preemptively discredit someone. Unless a mass claim happens (which it shouldn't), we have no information at all to go on, and can only hurt the town.
We should wait at least a couple of (game) days. Hopefully we will have more information by then, information that will help us do some constructive speculation.
so...what do you propose, a VNL?
I've tried, and that only gets you lynched...
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Pardon my ignorance, but I've never played a game where not lynching is an option. Is a no lynch bad for the town simply because it reduces the number of chances of hitting scum with a lynch, or am I missing something more significant?
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Pardon my ignorance, but I've never played a game where not lynching is an option. Is a no lynch bad for the town simply because it reduces the number of chances of hitting scum with a lynch, or am I missing something more significant?
Information is the most important thing for the town. The Mafia have all the information (they know who is mafia and who is town). The town has no information, so they use voting records, scumtells, etc for information. Since almost all of this information is gleened by voting patterns, forming bandwagons, etc, a lynch is one of the easiest ways to get information. Information also comes out when a person is lynched (based on what their alignment is, who voted for them, who defended them, etc.). By Voting No Lynch out of the blue, you deny the opportunity for the town to gain information.
There is also the more practical reason - the mafia almost always performs a nightkill. If the town keeps voting to No Lynch, the game may fall into a Lynch or Lose much quicker than before.
And one more - voting No Lynch is usually a sign of impatience or laziness because "the game isn't moving along enough". This is a terrible reason, because it usually isn't true.
No Lynch is a viable alternative later on, because in certain scenarios, a no lynch can guarantee a win for the town (by giving the cop one more investigation, etc etc). But a No Lynch, on Day 1, with 3 pages of random voting (aka no content) is a terrible thing.
Spotofprey is spot-on here. Voting No-Lynch so early in the game is bad for the town- the person lost is much, much less valuable than the information gained for the town based on voting patterns.
Hmm? It's a random vote, plain and simple. Nothing more than that, and just because I random voted YuanTi when a couple others already did for him doesn't necessarily mean a bandwagon. It's just random.
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Binary isn't the problem as the first voter, but Archy is either the dumbest thing since [insert analogy here], or the most scummy thing since [insert analogy 2 here]
And how does random voting for you makes me dumb?
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Fine, this better? LOL...I think that we should end the random voting. Unvote. let's settle on a solid bandwagon...I hope it's yuanti...
This does bring up a good point.
Unvote
Okay, seriously, if we need an interesting game we have to stop doing the Random votes and get something going on. It's much more intense with thought voting instead of random.
On a side note, I'll be away until Tuesday. It's Sunday, 12:35 PM now, and I'll probably be back Tuesday 4-5 PM-ish, or if stretched a bit, 7 PM.
I have reason to beleive that Pluto is not Town-aligned, if it's in the game. Not becuase of an ability, just a hunch about what's happened recently...
you may now return to your regularly scheduled bandwagonning of me...
Since there's no particular apparent game flavor, gaming the mod this early doesn't seem like a good idea. I'll take what you said as a joke and not completely serious, because lynching a person solely based on setup speculation is awful.
Pardon my ignorance, but I've never played a game where not lynching is an option. Is a no lynch bad for the town simply because it reduces the number of chances of hitting scum with a lynch, or am I missing something more significant?
spot gave all the reasons why d1 vote: no lynch is a bad idea. It is sometimes a good idea late game when no additional information is needed, and the town wants to balance out the numbers/use night actions. For instance, with 3 town and 1 mafia left, the town often votes no lynch to increase the chances of hitting the mafia (1/3 instead of 1/4).
I wonder how power roles relate to their heavenly bodies.
*sigh*
I wonder how the mafia intend to out the power roles through fishing. I suppose that way works... FoS: Yuan
This is not a good discussion topic. A better one would be "I wonder how the mafia roles flavorfully are mafia," but even that will lead to horrible lynches if we start killing people based on setup speculation instead of based on scummy play. Basically, any setup/role speculation is bad, at almost any time in the game, and especially this early.
agreed, that was pretty bad. Vote Yuan-Ti. Also, andeli's FoS makes me a bit suspicious...IGMEOY eli...
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I was wondering, I really was not expecting an "I'm a massive comet, who is the Vig, because it can smash a planet." or an "I'm the Sun, the cop, because I can see everything."
Disclaimer: Examples made at random, like why would the Sun have a night ability anyway?
In an experienced game, your post would get a laugh and a "stop fishing plz". But its pretty underhanded in a newbie game, and is never good in any level of Mafia. Townie power role information is the only information that the town doesn't want "out there".
FOS YuanTi. I'd normally overlook it, but you were fishing for power role information, which irked me a bit.
Experience has told me that generally, when you ask rhetorical questions about the set-up, people are gonna think you're fishing for information, which can get you lynched.
also, andelijah's FOS looked a bit misplaced. if you notice a fishing remark and see it bad enough to make a post, it should usually end with a vote. what he did looked like a fellow scum giving yuan a warning shot.
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mmmkay, scumtell much, YuanTi? Unvote from my random vote for now, seeing as we may have a small plurality forming here, but a definite FoS: YuanTi. I won't vote until we see a more satisfying explanation than the one you gave.
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We live in a country were ~50% of the populace believe public schooling is a socialist conspiracy and that being called Einstein is an insult. We could try and fix it, but unfortunately the other 50% don't believe in euthanasia.
In an experienced game, your post would get a laugh and a "stop fishing plz". But its pretty underhanded in a newbie game, and is never good in any level of Mafia.
I'd be more willing to vote an experienced player for blatantly fishing than a newb. Yes its underhanded because a newb is more likely to actually answer the question, but I think its equally much a newb not knowing not to fish.
also, andelijah's FOS looked a bit misplaced. if you notice a fishing remark and see it bad enough to make a post, it should usually end with a vote. what he did looked like a fellow scum giving yuan a warning shot.
I FoSed Yuan instead of voting, because last time I voted him for his numerous scum tells (newb 13), he was the vig who killed the final scum for the town. Last game I was way too harsh on newb tells, and this game I'm going to try to be less critical of them. So yes, I think Yuan's comment was scummy, but I'm nowhere near ready to lynch him for one post.
Also, I definitely don't want the day to end immediately following the random vote period with no clear reactions gained, other than lots of people trying to lynch Yuan, and so voting to lynch Yuan now would do a disservice to the town. More information and reactions are needed before we decide who to lynch. We can keep an eye on Yuan, and even lynch him later if he's the best target, but ending the day too quickly helps the scum more than the town, even if Yuan is scum.
Yuan-Ti, for a snake person you sure aren't very clever. It's very early game, so any scum mistake you make also makes a hell of a bandwagon, as people are ready to jump on it with no alternative. I'm pretty sure that's all it was though, a mistake. Not necessarily scum, because the "heavenly bodies" thing actually does sound cool and I want to know how it all fits together when the game is over. But I guess Yuan and I will wait until then, not now. FOS Yuan-Ti.
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Yuanti, you seem way too worried about what's happened too far, not to mention your fishing. I don't like it one bit.
FOS Yuanti
I'd vote if it didn't put you at lynch -2. By the way, I'm not asking for a claim yet and I don't think anybody else is either. It's way too early.
@andelijah, RDS, spotofprey: why did you only FOS Yuanti? I've never heard any taboo about putting someone at lynch -3 (or -4 in andelijah's case).
@Charm: Both you and Yuanti mentioned discrediting Pluto early. Are you scumbuddies and you know Pluto, a heavenly body that may appear scummy, is not on your team?
Vote Charm_Master
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I FOSed because I don't throw my votes around lightly. Not that I feel they have any cosmic weight or anything, its just a waste of everyone's time to vote 3 or 4 times a page based on small stuff.
It was a random vote- and I don't think that Yuan looks scummy enough at the moment to deserve a proper vote, and I don't like FoSing- I think it's pointless.
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Players:
Alive (3):
7. Apokalypse Kid - Mars, Mafia
9. Zionite - Sputnik I, Mafia Roleblocker
10.RDSGD4 - Betelgeuse, Mafia
Dead (9):
2. Charm_Master - The Moon, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 1.
1. andelijah - Io, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1.
12.Faeren - Voyager I, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 2.
4. rocker05 - Black Hole, Town Vigilante, killed Night 2.
5. spotofprey - Pluto, Neutral Survivor, lynched Day 3.
8. Sutherlands (replacing YuanTi) - The Sun, Cop, killed Night 3.
6. J-Effe IV (replacing Archy) - Venus, Doc, killed in the endgame.
11.Binary - Phobos, Townie, killed in the endgame.
3. chaosjuggler - Uranus, Vanilla Townie, killed in the endgame.
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The Basics of Mafia:
In a game of mafia, the 2 basic roles are Townie and Mafioso. In this game, the town will be made up of those trying to figure out who the bad guys are and stop them from killing. For the town to win, they must kill all members of the mafia. Most townies have only one tool: the lynch.
-While the game is in "Day" mode, any player may post in the thread. They may also FOS or Vote.
-FOS stands for Finger of Suspision. It has no direct bearing on the game, but it is a nice way to let everyone know who you are suspicious of.
-When any one player has reached a number of votes equal to the majority of the players in the game, that player will be lynched and the game will go into night.
-Votes, Unvotes, and FOSes should be bolded.
The mafia will win when they exceed or equal the town in number(at which point, they control the lynch). They may also post during the day and use Votes and FOSes. However, they have another tool: the ability to nightkill.
-While the game is in night, the mafia may communicate with each other.
-Then, one of them will send me the name of 1 player to be killed.
- Additionally, some players may have a Night Ability. Those players should send me their night choices as well.
-Once I have received the mafia's Night Choice, as well as the choice of any other player with a Night Ability, I will post a morning scene, and Day will start.
Rules:
0. The golden rule: when in doubt, ask me.
1. This is a game. As such, it's supposed to be fun for all involved. Do your part to make it happen.
2. Try to post at least once every 48 hours, the more the better. If you expect to be unavailable for some time, please notify me.
3. Whatever you post, stays on permanent record. No editing or deleting posts, ever. If you messed up the tags or somesuch, fix it by double-posting, not editing.
4. No posting at night.
5. No talking about the game outside the thread, unless your role specifically allows it, and then only at night.
6. No quoting PMs from the moderator, including your role PM. If necessary, you may paraphrase very loosely.
7. Once your death scene was posted, you're dead. Stop posting. A single "bah, go town/mafia!" post is ok, but nothing more than that.
8. All votes and unvotes in bold, such: vote Alx2 or unvote. It's not necessary to unvote before casting a new vote, but I'll appreciate it. You may also FoS players, which stands for Finger of Suspicion. It has no game effect, but it's a graphic way to let people know who you're suspicious of.
9. Lynching requires a regular majority of votes. Once a player reaches that majority, he will be lynched even if someone unvotes him later.
10.If you have a night choice to make, it's due by the posted deadline.
The mandatory "let's not go there" section:
- I reserve the right to replace a player for gross or repeated violations of rules 1 or 2.
- I reserve the right to modkill a player for violations of rules 3, 4, 5 or 6.
- I reserve the right to request the mafia council to blacklist a player for particularly gross violations of rules 1 or 7.
All town players have this win condition in their role PM: You win when all mafia are eliminated.
Day 2 lynch: post 515
Day 3 lynch: post 660
Game Status: THE END
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Vote; Archy Last to confirm, and random fos instead of random vote? SCUM!!
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YuanTi - 1 (Binary)
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Faeren - 1 (spotofprey)
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In the future, I'll only could votes if the vote is in bold, while the post itself isn't.
Meanwhile FoS: YuanTi for being so quick to jump on my random voting.
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For no particular reason. It's randomvote stage, people.
Vote: YuanTi because 8 is not a good number.
Vote: rocker. He was scum last game, he must be scum this time!!
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"Random" bandwagon much?
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Fine, this better? LOL...I think that we should end the random voting. Unvote. let's settle on a solid bandwagon...I hope it's yuanti...
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I'd love to end random voting, but there are no significantly scummy players yet, and so a serious bandwagon is out of the question. So, any ideas for discussion?
[My Idea] I'm not particularly a fan of this plan, but we could do a soft claim on what type of heavenly body we are (Stars, planets, moons, comets, etc). I'd rather not, but if we have nothing else to talk about, this could kick things off.
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QFT, it doesn't seem to do much good as of right now anyway, seems like claims come much later from what I've seen of games on the forums; we are only a few posts into this game.
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Full claims, such as names and abilities, come later in the game. A minor claim now would lock people into certain claims. If all the mafia were stars, for instance, we could see the pattern (if not now, then later). Also, if anyone changes their claim (they say moon now, claim a planet later), we have an auto-lynch. Its often not worth it, nor necessary, but if we have nothing else to discuss, its a valid option. However, Yuan's vote may start discussion anyways.
Ever since newb 12, I don't think a random vote bandwagon outs scum in a newb game (it was all town in that game). You're still nowhere near lynch range Yuan, no need to panic.
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I have reason to beleive that Pluto is not Town-aligned, if it's in the game. Not becuase of an ability, just a hunch about what's happened recently...
you may now return to your regularly scheduled bandwagonning of me...
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This would imply town/scum alignments revolve around solar system/planets/whatever, which is game setup speculation. All speculation does at this stage of the game is attempt to preemptively discredit someone. Unless a mass claim happens (which it shouldn't), we have no information at all to go on, and can only hurt the town.
We should wait at least a couple of (game) days. Hopefully we will have more information by then, information that will help us do some constructive speculation.
I've tried, and that only gets you lynched...
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No Lynch on Day 1 is the worst possible thing to happen to the town. Have some patience...we are 3 pages in and you are already talking No Lynch.
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I won't have access until tomorrow late afternoon/night, I will reread then.
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Information is the most important thing for the town. The Mafia have all the information (they know who is mafia and who is town). The town has no information, so they use voting records, scumtells, etc for information. Since almost all of this information is gleened by voting patterns, forming bandwagons, etc, a lynch is one of the easiest ways to get information. Information also comes out when a person is lynched (based on what their alignment is, who voted for them, who defended them, etc.). By Voting No Lynch out of the blue, you deny the opportunity for the town to gain information.
There is also the more practical reason - the mafia almost always performs a nightkill. If the town keeps voting to No Lynch, the game may fall into a Lynch or Lose much quicker than before.
And one more - voting No Lynch is usually a sign of impatience or laziness because "the game isn't moving along enough". This is a terrible reason, because it usually isn't true.
No Lynch is a viable alternative later on, because in certain scenarios, a no lynch can guarantee a win for the town (by giving the cop one more investigation, etc etc). But a No Lynch, on Day 1, with 3 pages of random voting (aka no content) is a terrible thing.
Hmm? It's a random vote, plain and simple. Nothing more than that, and just because I random voted YuanTi when a couple others already did for him doesn't necessarily mean a bandwagon. It's just random.
And how does random voting for you makes me dumb?
This does bring up a good point.
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Okay, seriously, if we need an interesting game we have to stop doing the Random votes and get something going on. It's much more intense with thought voting instead of random.
On a side note, I'll be away until Tuesday. It's Sunday, 12:35 PM now, and I'll probably be back Tuesday 4-5 PM-ish, or if stretched a bit, 7 PM.
Since there's no particular apparent game flavor, gaming the mod this early doesn't seem like a good idea. I'll take what you said as a joke and not completely serious, because lynching a person solely based on setup speculation is awful.
spot gave all the reasons why d1 vote: no lynch is a bad idea. It is sometimes a good idea late game when no additional information is needed, and the town wants to balance out the numbers/use night actions. For instance, with 3 town and 1 mafia left, the town often votes no lynch to increase the chances of hitting the mafia (1/3 instead of 1/4).
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Archy - 2 (RDSGD4, YuanTi)
YuanTi - 2 (Binary, chaosjuggler)
Charmmaster - 1 (AK)
Faeren - 1 (spotofprey)
not voting – 6 - andelijah, zionite, rocker05, Archy, Faeren, andelijah
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
It also seems that half of the game is away from their computers - I guess we have to wait for more content.
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I wonder how the mafia intend to out the power roles through fishing. I suppose that way works...
FoS: Yuan
This is not a good discussion topic. A better one would be "I wonder how the mafia roles flavorfully are mafia," but even that will lead to horrible lynches if we start killing people based on setup speculation instead of based on scummy play. Basically, any setup/role speculation is bad, at almost any time in the game, and especially this early.
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In an experienced game, your post would get a laugh and a "stop fishing plz". But its pretty underhanded in a newbie game, and is never good in any level of Mafia. Townie power role information is the only information that the town doesn't want "out there".
FOS YuanTi. I'd normally overlook it, but you were fishing for power role information, which irked me a bit.
also, andelijah's FOS looked a bit misplaced. if you notice a fishing remark and see it bad enough to make a post, it should usually end with a vote. what he did looked like a fellow scum giving yuan a warning shot.
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mmmkay, scumtell much, YuanTi? Unvote from my random vote for now, seeing as we may have a small plurality forming here, but a definite FoS: YuanTi. I won't vote until we see a more satisfying explanation than the one you gave.
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Yah, yuan...bad play there. Vote; Yuanti. Might spark discussion...
FoS Charmy.Discouraging scum tells is bad as they are what let us check scums.
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I'd be more willing to vote an experienced player for blatantly fishing than a newb. Yes its underhanded because a newb is more likely to actually answer the question, but I think its equally much a newb not knowing not to fish.
I FoSed Yuan instead of voting, because last time I voted him for his numerous scum tells (newb 13), he was the vig who killed the final scum for the town. Last game I was way too harsh on newb tells, and this game I'm going to try to be less critical of them. So yes, I think Yuan's comment was scummy, but I'm nowhere near ready to lynch him for one post.
Also, I definitely don't want the day to end immediately following the random vote period with no clear reactions gained, other than lots of people trying to lynch Yuan, and so voting to lynch Yuan now would do a disservice to the town. More information and reactions are needed before we decide who to lynch. We can keep an eye on Yuan, and even lynch him later if he's the best target, but ending the day too quickly helps the scum more than the town, even if Yuan is scum.
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Yuanti, you seem way too worried about what's happened too far, not to mention your fishing. I don't like it one bit.
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I'd vote if it didn't put you at lynch -2. By the way, I'm not asking for a claim yet and I don't think anybody else is either. It's way too early.
@andelijah, RDS, spotofprey: why did you only FOS Yuanti? I've never heard any taboo about putting someone at lynch -3 (or -4 in andelijah's case).
@Charm: Both you and Yuanti mentioned discrediting Pluto early. Are you scumbuddies and you know Pluto, a heavenly body that may appear scummy, is not on your team?
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It was a random vote- and I don't think that Yuan looks scummy enough at the moment to deserve a proper vote, and I don't like FoSing- I think it's pointless.