[SOK] 6 cards incl. Soramaro, First to Dream

[Hydrokinesis]

Originally posted by Verbal, our colleague on Mtgnews, mere minutes ago!!!

Originally Posted by Verbal, mod on Mtgnews!!!

More info:

soramaro first to dream, 4uu
legendary creature-spirit
flying
Soramaro first to dream's power and toughness are each equal to the number of cards in your hand
4,return a land you control to it's owners hand: draw a card
illus. Brian Despain
58/165
rare

It seems that our source has one of the pre-cons (based on the scan i am having difficulty showing you!).

Some more names of cards:

Akki Underling
Kitsune Bonesetter (both have something to do with cards in hand)

Sink into takenuma (has sweep - makes the opponent discard a card for each swamp you return to hand).

More as I get it!

Please, a penny for anyone's thoughts... its all coming in now!!!

[ButteBlues]

Well, I'm not so sure.

For one thing, having the card AND a scan, one might imagine they'd have a p/t for the critter.

Ninja edit - er, if he has this precon, why can he only NAME the other cards? Shouldn't he, er, you know, have them right in front of him to scan and write out.

I call FAKE.

[Hydrokinesis]

yeah, hate to say it... but soramaro doesn't show in the orb!!


lets hope its a typo!

*****MASS EDIT!!! Soramaro does show in the Orb!!!! 3 times!!!!!*****

[Senori]

That doesn't look very real; there's no P/T on the card, name seems kinda weird, and if he has the pre-cons, why isn't he giving more?

[jarsyl]

soramaro = 3....
ghost-lit = 12.
either this guy got very lucky with the orb or it's for real. of course the given text only accounts for 2 instances. How strange.
i like the maro reference.
Implications of a Soratami ability being on a spirit?

[SorryGuy]

Can we get a link? Also did they say they have Scans?

Regardless this is probably real, everything checks out with the Orb assuming that Soramaro is in the favor text. Maro again, hehe. Also Verbal is a mod, right? Has he taken over for R_E over there?

Anyway this seems real...

Um...A three color Pre-Con? Have they ever done that?

[Ranma]

soramaro=3
Interesting, maybe another card with soramaro in it or is this a fake card on mtgnews?
I'm very redundant, I still wonder why it say soramaro 3 times, but only two on the card.

[SorryGuy]

Originally Posted by Ranma

soramaro=3
Interesting, maybe another card with soramaro in it or is this a fake card on mtgnews?
I'm very redundant, I still wonder why it say soramaro 3 times, but only two on the card.

Flavor text my friend, Flavor Text. Also why is everyone questioning why we do not have P/T? We do, it is equal to the number of cards in hand....

[jarsyl]

Originally Posted by Verbal @ mtgnews

Channel: not quite as above. Basically a sort of cycling without the cycling part.

Example: Ghost lit redeemer costs W. But you can 'channel' it from you hand for 1W - and if you do, it turns into 4 life. I think you discard it when doing this, and it seems to be uncounterable. From the orb, ghost lit and channel appear the same number of times (12) so maybe all the ghost lit cards have channel.

Sweep:

Basically, these are scaleable effects which allow you to return a certain number of a certain kind of land for a bigger effect.

Epic: <some big effect>. You may not play any more spells this game. At the start of each of your (upkeeps? mainphases?) put a copy of this on the stack.

I will say that's there's an aburdly high number of "copy" so I was fairly certain a mechanic had to involve it. Was kinda expecting "Copy this spell and return it to you hand" sorta thing though. There's also a high incidence of upkeep which I had as about the right number for Epic, but then I though it had something to so with the high number of counters and modifiers. Maybe shinen will explain that though I don't quite see how. shrug.
Turns out the sweep thing was true I suppose.

Originally Posted by Go to Combat Phase

While at local card store for a draft tonight, a guy who often plays in there and also happens to work for a printing company where they print magic cards mentioned a new mechanic called, I believe, "sweep" where you return lands to your hand to improve an effect. For example, the one he mentioned was a white card where you return X lands to your hand to give target creature +X/+X until end of turn. (may have been situational, but he couldn't remember) Anyways, I can't post scans or anything, because I didn't actually get to see any cards, but this is someone I trust, and who I would not expect to make this kind of thing up.

[Ranma]

Originally Posted by SorryGuy

Flavor text my friend, Flavor Text. Also why is everyone questioning why we do not have P/T? We do, it is equal to the number of cards in hand....

Except the Orb doesn't do Flavor Text. The toughness would be */* and the source didn't put it down I'll guess.

[Verbal]

True on the P/T, although it is clearly */*, surely. And any mis-spelling on soramaro I suggest may have been on your part - the orb gives me three hits (which is name, ability, flavourtext).

The scan is of a page of info about the set - It is merely my guess it comes from the soratami wisdom pre-con. I'd guess that based on a couple of things - but you'll have to wait for the scan.

So those other three cards are just named on the scans as example names of cards in the set with various abilities.

I won't say for certain that this info is legit. But it has more legs than you give it credit for.

edit: and if it doesn't count flaour text, I bet there is a card called 'soramaro's wisdom' or similar which is, say, UU2 arcane draw 2 card or some such. (that is, by the way, speculation).

[Azerbaijan]

Originally Posted by ButteBlues18

For one thing, having the card AND a scan, one might imagine they'd have a p/t for the critter.

*/*

Ninja edit - er, if he has this precon, why can he only NAME the other cards? Shouldn't he, er, you know, have them right in front of him to scan and write out.

Well, now, that is a tougher question. I'm calling REAL at the moment but I understand your skepticism

[SorryGuy]

Originally Posted by Ranma

Except the Orb doesn't do Flavor Text. The toughness would be */* and the source didn't put it down I'll guess.

Hm....Shows what I know. Maybe the wording is off or another card does refere to it.....Also was does News still get info before us? Well it is of no matter, any rumors are better than no rumors.

I am staying with my call of real...

[Cyan]

Why are people stuck on it not showing a P/T? It specifically says that it has P/T equal to the # of cards in your hand..so they didn't list the */* at the bottom. Soramaro is clearly real, and the last Orb reference to it would obviously just be in reference to a different card.

[Cannibal]

well... i have to say that the sweep thing seems odd to me.it just sounds too much like scoop, which is an accepted part of the MTG vocabulary...

i guess we'll see soon...

-Cannibal-
:cthulhu:

[smh]

I'm calling true on Epic. It's very much in line with the promo poster being discussed in another thread here. ("If you could cast one spell for the rest of your life...")

[Ranma]

Originally Posted by Cyan

Why are people stuck on it not showing a P/T? It specifically says that it has P/T equal to the # of cards in your hand..so they didn't list the */* at the bottom. Soramaro is clearly real, and the last Orb reference to it would obviously just be in reference to a different card.

I agree. This seems to be a fairly viable rumor. Thank you anonymous benefactor I hope to be seeing more soon.

[Torwyn]

I'm calling real, since "Dream" and "Dream's" both show up once in the Orb( the first for the title, the second for "Soramaro, the First Dream's power and toughness..." ). The chance of a faker finding "Soramaro", "Dream", and "Dream's" in the Orb while browsing is just too small.

Edit: The card looks even more real after considering that its name means "Sky MaRo", which fits it perfectly.

[Verbal]

just for clarity: the scan I've been sent looks like one of those fold-out inserts that goes into precons. It names a small number of random cards and only very broadly discusses their abilities.

[Hydrokinesis]

Gogo Verbal! Great find!

Do you believe we can expect more from this particular source, or did he just send the scan to you, and that's all?

You've made my Saturday great dude...!

[ButteBlues]

I'll admit I should have read more carefully as far as the p/t goes...

Hmm, given the few fixes, I'm going to lean real, especially with the Orb saying Bonesetter had 1 result.

EDIT - meh, even with ALL of that, I'm going undecided... there's evidence that it is real, and several things that scream to me it's not... feel free to form your own opinions though.

[Nex3]

Soramaro: Hee hee, Soratami + Maro. This seems quite the green ability from history, but I could understand it being moved into blue. Nice synergy, very cool card.

Sweep: I don't think this terminology is widely used enough to warrant not using it for a mechanic. Interesting, sacrificing tempo for card advantage. Has potential, but also seems very blue, with the moonfolk...

[SorryGuy]

Originally Posted by Verbal

just for clarity: the scan I've been sent looks like one of those fold-out inserts that goes into precons. It names a small number of random cards and only very broadly discusses their abilities.

I take it said source has asked you not to post these scans?

[Xenphire]

I'm a bit skeptical about the Epic as I believe it looks like they just went into the poster spec thread and took it out of there *shrugs*

But bah with so many speculating how can we not get it right :P

I like Soramaro. Go blue go!

[Verbal]

No - i just have a terrible connection and am having difficulty doing so. But we will have them on the front page later today (although they may be a bit tiny - crud connection, as I say.)

[Cyan]

He emailed me with a *very* small scan of the fold-out page...he cant really email anything larger, as his connection is 56K. Anyway, hopefully, here is the scan that I was emailed:

I had to change the picture type to .bmp(it was originally a jpeg..which is listed as a valid file extension..but..whatever), hopefully it'll still be viewable.

[SorryGuy]

Originally Posted by Cyan

He emailed me with a *very* small scan of the fold-out page...he cant really email anything larger, as his connection is 56K. Anyway, hopefully, here is the scan that I was emailed:

It's not letting me attach the file, for whatever reason. Any help here would be fine.

What are the specs on it? Is it .gif? At any rate I am sure if you PM it to BB or Someone I am sure they can get it up.

Is anyone esle as excited as me?

[Hydrokinesis]

Originally Posted by SorryGuy

Is anyone else as excited as me?

Of course dude, I knew we'd get some info before the Wizards previews!

Way to stick it to the man!


I sense the flood of more cards coming... This is going to be a great two weeks!

Soramaro is pretty cool, I mean, drawing you a card and giving himself +2/+2 permanently is great, Flying is just the icing on the cake. Now, would anyone care to speculate on his pic being the one on the 'Soratami's wisdom' Preconstructed deck? I guess he may not be a Moonfolk Spirit after all?

[ButteBlues]

You could PM it to me, and hopefully I could resize+sharpen it some to bring out the text, or you could go to a place like this one and host it so you can use the image tags.

[Nushio]

Finally something to wet this dry season!

Thanks for everything Verbal!

[Xenphire]

.... BLAST. BLAST BLAST BLAST!!!! I should be excited for new info, but this is the one freakin time I have no way to a prerelease and it actually interests me alot. Jesus-tap-dancing-christ-on-a-pogo-stick.

[Angelf_RofT]

So a spirit that has the soratami mechanic, seems like a representative of the tribe itself or a spirit of a moonfolk, whatever goes, could this mean theres actually a cycle of these (one for each tribe and color). We can only guess...

Soramaro, for it being a possible mixture it sure sounds cool.

[jarsyl]

Originally Posted by Angelf_RofT

So a spirit that has the soratami mechanic, seems like a representative of the tribe itself or a spirit of a moonfolk, whatever goes, could this mean theres actually a cycle of these (one for each tribe and color). We can only guess...

Soramaro, for it being a possible mixture it sure sounds cool.

probably. seeing as there are 5 */*. Guess they're not the Kirin after all.


anyone have a glimmer on the right wording for epic? Spells only occurs 7 times.

[Verbal]

BB: I would, but I have no real connection. Hopefully the guy is mid-sending it to cyan or cyric as a real size.

I'll try sending the GIF I just saved to 'em as well.

[ButteBlues]

Thanks for the effort Verbal (Don't worry, I just left my dial-up behind a few days ago, so I can empathize )

Well, I shall await the pics, and as soon as I have them (or Cyan or Anthony posts them), all shall be revealed I suppose.

[Xenphire]

Verbal: Ask him if he can scan and save it as a jpg. The reason it's probably such a big file is because he saved it as a gif.

[worthawholebean]

The collector's number is plausible. I say real, even though there are 7 cards between Opp and Sor.

[Nushio]

Originally Posted by jarsyl

probably. seeing as there are 5 */*. Guess they're not the Kirin after all.


anyone have a glimmer on the right wording for epic? Spells only occurs 7 times.

Spells only occurs 7 times? thats enough! If epic spells refer themselves then theres only 5 epic spells, and spells only needs to be written once per card, not twice

[jarsyl]

Originally Posted by Nushio

Spells only occurs 7 times? thats enough! If epic spells refer themselves then theres only 5 epic spells, and spells only needs to be written once per card, not twice

True. From the way it's worded I'd assumed epic was a keyword. but i guess it doesn't actually say that. Getting sloppy.

[Xenphire]

The other two occurences may be something like the warchiefs "_____ spells you play cost 1 less to play", etc., "Target opponent can't play ___ spells this turn", there's a ton of possibilities.