MTGS Forum Nomic #1 Discussion Thread - Page 10

Iammars · 12-10-2007, 09:34 PM

Actually, now looking at the rules, Rule 202 is actually the rule that covers it, but with the same effect.

KittyCupCake · 12-12-2007, 09:39 PM

MWAHAHAHA, my super secret sneaky strategy has been revealed!

But, seriously, is Absolutionis right? Am I still technically a player?
That'd be kinda cool, actually.

Iammars · 12-12-2007, 10:18 PM

We might want to invoke judgement on that.

Absolutionis · 12-12-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFooFish

MWAHAHAHA, my super secret sneaky strategy has been revealed!

But, seriously, is Absolutionis right? Am I still technically a player?
That'd be kinda cool, actually.

I'd really like that.
Only because that would be really weird, cause headaches, and allow you to be little more than a saboteur that cannot win the game.

Essentially, vote "no" on everyone's proposal.

Note that you don't get a turn because turn order is Mutable 201 which is killed by Immutable 114.

Intentionally Wrong · 12-13-2007, 12:47 AM

Jedit asked me what I was expecting from Nomic. After giving it some thought, I think I was expecting something more like this.

Incidentally, I'd vote for a rule like the following:

3XX. Any player who forfeits or otherwise withdraws from the game shall have the lines declaring his intent to play removed from the appropriate post in the registration thread by a moderator as soon as is convenient.

Absolutionis · 12-13-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Intentionally Wrong

3XX. Any player who forfeits or otherwise withdraws from the game shall have the lines declaring his intent to play removed from the appropriate post in the registration thread by a moderator as soon as is convenient.

105 says you're a player if you registered before the first turn. Erasing the name from that thread means nothing as you still registered.

Iammars · 12-13-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Absolutionis

105 says you're a player if you registered before the first turn. Erasing the name from that thread means nothing as you still registered.

So if we wanted to make players who dropped no longer players, we would have to either transmute 105 or do some fancy tricks to get around it.

Hm... I might have to address it on my next turn. Unless someone fixes the simul turn rule.

Sacramento Tzar · 12-18-2007, 10:33 AM

So is this the end of this nomic? It doesn't end with a win but instead just dies due to lack of intrest. Wow, how boring. Unless the nomic in question is completely different, at this point I'm not really that interested in playing another one.

I personally think it would be pretty cool to play a nomic monopoly (or simular game) though. Perhaps that wouldn't die so easily.

Binary · 12-18-2007, 10:39 AM

Getting any kind of regular participation out of people at this time of year is difficult. Assuming people come back after Christmas (and I think they will) a short hiatus might not hurt.

|CDM| · 12-27-2007, 12:55 AM

Did anybody read my failed debate game proposal in nomic 2.5? Would anybody like to see something like that over here?

Jedit · 12-27-2007, 04:22 AM

We're worried about the turns being too time consuming, and you ask if we want to introduce a rule that will make the problem ten times worse?

|CDM| · 12-27-2007, 01:26 PM

You really think it would be ten times worse? Why? I also don't think turns are too time consuming, I think they need to be taken on time, every time.

|CDM| · 01-01-2008, 11:16 PM

I see now, at least in my opinion, that quick turns are not necessary. I understand that at the beginning of the game everyone was anxious to get their turn and move the game along. I now feel a slower, longer game may be beneficial. I personally don't want anyone to win anytime soon, and would be quite content with a game that goes on indefinitely.

On another note, does anyone think we should vote via PM?

Fajen Thygia · 01-02-2008, 12:38 AM

Well, they're not neccesary, but they're still nice. If the game goes indefinitely, it doesn't matter what the pace of the turns is.

|CDM| · 01-03-2008, 06:17 PM

Anybody have any ideas about color based rules yet? I'm currently working on few that include the colors, but also define a "base" for individual players, and "open areas" to be occupied by all. Both with benifits and down sides...

I'm also thinking about shaking up the mod involvement a bit. This one though, could get tricky.

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12-13-2007, 12:47 AM	#140
Intentionally Wrong Ascended Mage Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Location Posts: 444	Jedit asked me what I was expecting from Nomic. After giving it some thought, I think I was expecting something more like this. Incidentally, I'd vote for a rule like the following: 3XX. Any player who forfeits or otherwise withdraws from the game shall have the lines declaring his intent to play removed from the appropriate post in the registration thread by a moderator as soon as is convenient. Last edited by Intentionally Wrong; 12-13-2007 at 12:59 AM.
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12-27-2007, 04:22 AM	#146
Jedit Stupid is the disease. He is the cure. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,805	We're worried about the turns being too time consuming, and you ask if we want to introduce a rule that will make the problem ten times worse? __________________ FIRST RULE OF WRITING POSTS: Think, think, write, think again, submit. "I'm not nice, and I'm not good. I'm just right."
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