I'm posting this as a rumour I heard at FNM on Friday. Information is third-hand, (a player's friend works at Wizards, told about the card but not seen a scan etc). I'll put the information as best as I can remember.
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Creature - Goblin rogue
Prowl 1B(If a Goblin Rogue dealt combat damge this turn, you may play this spell for it's prowl cost).
3/3
I'm as disbelieving as the next guy, but feel it is my duty to post any info I hear about.
Hmmm, the mechanic looks interesting but I would guess that it would be just "rogue" rather than "goblin rogue" as MOR is supposed to be about classes. Plus, having something dependent on both race and class means it would be really hard to trigger it.
Prowl :1mana::symb:(If a Goblin Rogue dealt combat damge this turn, you may play this spell for it's prowl cost).
3/3
If that cards was true?I guess would highly recommend a RACE type not just a Class type which makes makes most kithkins that has prowl needs to be a 'Kithkin Soldier not just a Soldier' to make use the ability. its likely that the SOLDIER CLASS themed on Morningtide will still be a centered, limited and exclusively lorwyn. which im very sure.:D and non-lorwyn races won't get benefits on it.
I'm not saying I believe this card just yet, but saying it's fake because goblin rogue feels wrong is a bad argument. Almost as bad as saying that fairies should be black instead of goblins. The card looks unimpressive enough to be believable but the ability is suspiciously close to ninjutsu for my liking.
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Cool. No idea if it's real or not, but I think that mechanic would be fun to play with. Seems kinda swingy, but they could limit how strong the cards are fairly easily. This one's kinda bad, because 5 for a 3/3 is horrible, and it'd be kinda tough to trigger the keyword, in which case "wow, I got a black Watchwolf."
I mean, insofar as how / why Wizards developed that ability. The philosohpy of Lorwyn is to make tribal non-linear, to not have every card just go into "the goblin deck" or "the rogue deck" or whatever deck. On the one hand, making it goblin OR rogue seems to open up some more possibilities for deckbuilding. On the other hand, making it goblin AND rogue forces your hand in not just playing "the goblin deck" or "the rogue deck" but playing "the goblin rogue deck". That makes the mechanic very linear, but with many different lines.
Of course, what it comes down to is that Changelings are the answer to everything yet again. Their existence makes me believe this mechanic.
Well, looks like Boggart Forager is going to start seeing some play, being the only 1-mana Goblin Rogue.
I think that if this is a real card, there's probably more to the mechanic than just "prowl." Maybe "Goblin prowl" or "Rogue prowl" or "Goblin Rogue prowl;" it doesn't seem like "prowl" should mean "If a creature of all this card's creature types dealt damage this turn, you may play this card for its prowl cost."
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Yeah, this really has to be "goblin OR rogue" for the prowl ability to do anything, especially in limited. If they made a whole bunch of prowl creatures, all they'd be in limited is really inefficient if it is "all of the creature types of [this]".
thats the Morningtide was made exclusively limited lorwyn block. but ok i leave it that way ill just wait more spoilers and sure cards to prove my speculation especially on white soldiers in morningtide.
If they made a whole bunch of prowl creatures, all they'd be in limited is really inefficient if it is "all of the creature types of [this]".
and that way they forced you to play with Very limited Race which can be an advantage or disadvantage?
Would it be anything like Amplify? I'm thinking that Prowl will appear on other rogues, and they'll be looking for you to match classes.
You can't say, in game terms, "Whenever a creature with the same class as this creature deals combat damage..." because the differentiation between race and class is flavor only. So either you have to match all creature types, match some creature types, or something like that. I'm in favor of matching all creature types. That is, of course, if this rumor has weight to it.
I find this information very doubtful on its face. The card is poorly fleshed out, lacking a name, flavor text, illustrator, and collector's number, all of which makes it harder to pin anything down about the card; the keyword isn't tremendously impressive, and is worded in a way that doesn't make a lot of sense.
I wouldn't rule this card out as completely impossible (assuming the "combat damage to a player" and "goblin or rogue" interpretations) but even so it strikes me as more the typical sort of pre-rumor season cards invented to fill in keyword names we already know than a real spoiler.
3BB ~this
Creature - Goblin rogue
Prowl 1B(If a Goblin Rogue dealt combat damge this turn, you may play this spell for it's prowl cost).
3/3
I'm as disbelieving as the next guy, but feel it is my duty to post any info I hear about.
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Nice to have some mongering going on out there, even though this seems like ninjitsu part deux.
We'll only know when we get a little more... But keep up the mongering my amigos!
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I think it would in fact be to the opponent. May have missed that, but it makes sense.
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So? There could easily be goblin rogues as well as faerie rogues. Not every Izzet card has Replicate, etc.
That would make a difference on how good the card is, but how would that affect the likelihood of the rumour?
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Remember, Morningtide is about classes not races. The decks are gonna be focused specifically on rogues, not fairies.
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I mean, insofar as how / why Wizards developed that ability. The philosohpy of Lorwyn is to make tribal non-linear, to not have every card just go into "the goblin deck" or "the rogue deck" or whatever deck. On the one hand, making it goblin OR rogue seems to open up some more possibilities for deckbuilding. On the other hand, making it goblin AND rogue forces your hand in not just playing "the goblin deck" or "the rogue deck" but playing "the goblin rogue deck". That makes the mechanic very linear, but with many different lines.
Of course, what it comes down to is that Changelings are the answer to everything yet again. Their existence makes me believe this mechanic.
I think that if this is a real card, there's probably more to the mechanic than just "prowl." Maybe "Goblin prowl" or "Rogue prowl" or "Goblin Rogue prowl;" it doesn't seem like "prowl" should mean "If a creature of all this card's creature types dealt damage this turn, you may play this card for its prowl cost."
Well, there's no way to say that race won't be a minor theme in MOR. All we know is that there will be class.
what do you mean?major theme something like this one?a modified card idea from wildfire393.
Soldier Captain Lorwyn 2W
Creature - Kithkin Soldier
Whenever a Soldier you control attacks,
target Kithkin you control gets +1/+1 until end of turn
target Merfolk you control untaps.
target Elf you control gains First Strike.
target Giant you control gains Life Link.
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or Instead of this one
Soldier Captain Overall 2W
Creature - Kithkin Soldier
Whenever a Soldier you control attacks,
target Soldier you control gets +1/+1 until end of turn
target Soldier you control untaps.
target Soldier you control gains First Strike.
target Creature you control gains Life Link.
2/2
Would you think RACE will be a heavily emphasize to in Morningtide Class theme?:cool:
Besides, how does that speculative card prove anything? I understand you think the set will be that way, but still...
and that way they forced you to play with Very limited Race which can be an advantage or disadvantage?
You can't say, in game terms, "Whenever a creature with the same class as this creature deals combat damage..." because the differentiation between race and class is flavor only. So either you have to match all creature types, match some creature types, or something like that. I'm in favor of matching all creature types. That is, of course, if this rumor has weight to it.
Changelings are all Goblin Rogues.
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I wouldn't rule this card out as completely impossible (assuming the "combat damage to a player" and "goblin or rogue" interpretations) but even so it strikes me as more the typical sort of pre-rumor season cards invented to fill in keyword names we already know than a real spoiler.
And is it just me, or does this ability feel very little like "prowling"?
I dunno. I'm about 50/50 on whether or not this is real, and if it is, im about 90/10 that they have the wording all wrong.
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