[MOR] 4 New Cards from WOTC Website

Mephiston · 12-29-2007, 11:14 PM

These are now up on the official Wizards website - what do we think?

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Apokalypse Kid · 12-29-2007, 11:16 PM

The elf is nuts in limited and constructed.

burkey_boy · 12-29-2007, 11:19 PM

bye bye grizzly bears.

can you stifle champion?

RedRascal · 12-29-2007, 11:21 PM

So this eliminates almost all possibilities of a kithkin "duel", but I guess it fits into the cycle. Kithkin were somewhat of an oddity by being the one tribe most dominantly depicted in their first color; so much so they decided to give them a white legend.

ToAzT · 12-29-2007, 11:21 PM

Kithkin land!! WOO!

azngenius · 12-29-2007, 11:21 PM

Yes. If you Stifle the comes-into-play trigger of Champion, you won't have to RFG an elemental.

Zahntavier · 12-29-2007, 11:22 PM

I was hoping that the Kithkin land would make a bigger splash. Just one +1/+1 counter? Bleach. That elf though, at uncommon! Good lord thats good.

Charm_Master3125 · 12-29-2007, 11:23 PM

I'm going to break that exemplar card...mono blue aggro/control will ride again!

don't exactly like the reinforce mechanic, even as a combat trick. the land is over-rated IMO

The elf is going to be another $3 uncommon, like shriekmaw.

the wizard looks interesting...might see play.

duffman913 · 12-29-2007, 11:23 PM

The elf is really good imo.. i might have to pick up some. Hooray for a Kithkin land lol. The 7 mana 10/10 Elemental is meh imo and the merfolk is pretty good.

H1jAcK · 12-29-2007, 11:24 PM

The Exemplar is fun, just because he's huge, but he'll hardly be good in Constructed. The "Kithkin Land" is... different, but I don't like it. I would have rather seen it as a G/W dual, but whatever. It's cool to see Reinforce on something that isn't a spell. The Shaman will see plenty of play in elf decks in T2. That's really not that surprising, since he gets you another creature for free. As for the sage... it bothers me. Why does it say "addition +1/+1 counter"? Why wouldn't it just say +1/+1 counter? Is that just to cover situations of wizards that come into play with counters on them already? -Jack

Starlit_Halo · 12-29-2007, 11:24 PM

I think that the Kithkin land is a piece of crap and that I'd take a Plains over it any day. Sage of Fables is meh, Wolf-Skull Shaman makes me giggle like a school girl, and Supreme Exemplar is absolutely nuts with Incandescent Soulstoke!

canamrock · 12-29-2007, 11:26 PM

The Sage is a neat trick... most likely at its best in a casual Extended tribal deck where it can team up with some of the Grafters for more counter spamming fun. That Shaman is some bull-on-a-stick. Grizzlies + free friends = tech. Why they reprint Elvish Warrior in the same set is beyond me. The Exemplar seems at its best with either the Horde of Notions or the Elemental Lord... that lord with some CiP Elemental out makes for a sick turn if you can flop one of these. And finally, while not super-awesome-megariffic, the Kithkin land is really nice for a White Weenie deck heavily in on the Kithkin side (auto 4-of), and there are worse things to be doing with a turn 4-5 land drop than turn it into a pseudo-man or burn-dodging pump.

Unused Nickname · 12-29-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by H1jAcK

The Exemplar is fun, just because he's huge, but he'll hardly be good in Constructed. The "Kithkin Land" is... different, but I don't like it. I would have rather seen it as a G/W dual, but whatever. It's cool to see Reinforce on something that isn't a spell. The Shaman will see plenty of play in elf decks in T2. That's really not that surprising, since he gets you another creature for free. As for the sage... it bothers me. Why does it say "addition +1/+1 counter"? Why wouldn't it just say +1/+1 counter? Is that just to cover situations of wizards that come into play with counters on them already? -Jack

Cytoplast Manipulator comes into play with 2 +1/+1 counters, for example. Also if another one of these us out the verbiage is needed. That is the card I like the most out of the pile.

That Kithkin land should be uncommon IMO.

Hunter · 12-29-2007, 11:29 PM

So, the Wolf-Skull is green, after all

They definitly have changed their spoiler-policy.....

Fats McRobot · 12-29-2007, 11:29 PM

Wow, Kithkin land sucks. I mean, opening a plains is almost a better pick if this thing wasn't rare. Why hello there, 15th pick. Not to say it isn't horrible. It allows nonwhite decks to splash white assuming one of their soldiers or knights or clerics also happens to be a hobbit. I want MaRo or someone to explain why that card had to be made.

The other three... wow.

I want to see Exemplar online in a draft. Elf might be a top pick. Its insane for constructed on either tribe, and syncs up nicely with clashes. Love the wizard's art, and I hope this means wizards will do something as a tribe this go round.

12-29-2007, 11:14 PM	#1
Mephiston Wizard Mentor Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 561	[MOR] 4 New Cards from WOTC Website These are now up on the official Wizards website - what do we think? (Please attach images instead of leeching bandwidth from Wizards' site.) Attached Thumbnails Last edited by charlequin : 12-30-2007 at 01:15 AM.

12-29-2007, 11:19 PM	#3
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12-29-2007, 11:21 PM	#5
ToAzT Ascended Mage Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 256	Kithkin land!! WOO! __________________ Cake(it has layers)

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12-29-2007, 11:22 PM	#7
Zahntavier Experienced Mage Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cali Posts: 132	I was hoping that the Kithkin land would make a bigger splash. Just one +1/+1 counter? Bleach. That elf though, at uncommon! Good lord thats good. __________________ Decks:


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12-29-2007, 11:21 PM	#4
RedRascal Wizard Mentor Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 507	So this eliminates almost all possibilities of a kithkin "duel", but I guess it fits into the cycle. Kithkin were somewhat of an oddity by being the one tribe most dominantly depicted in their first color; so much so they decided to give them a white legend.

12-29-2007, 11:23 PM	#8
Charm_Master3125 Your logic is illogical. World Project Leader Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indiana, USA Posts: 4,105 Blog Entries: 7	I'm going to break that exemplar card...mono blue aggro/control will ride again! don't exactly like the reinforce mechanic, even as a combat trick. the land is over-rated IMO The elf is going to be another $3 uncommon, like shriekmaw. the wizard looks interesting...might see play. __________________ DCI Level 2 Tournament Organizer Mushroom Kingdom Mafia - Mafia MVP* My H/W List\|\|---\|\|Extendo Away\|\|---\|\|Planar Chaos If you play Magic and live in Indiana, PM me! GENERATION 13: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig and add 1 to the generation. social experiment.

12-29-2007, 11:23 PM	#9
duffman913 Love conquers all Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Too far north Posts: 1,823	The elf is really good imo.. i might have to pick up some. Hooray for a Kithkin land lol. The 7 mana 10/10 Elemental is meh imo and the merfolk is pretty good. __________________ " If you're asking if I need you, the answer is forever. If you're asking if I will leave you, the answer is never. If you're asking what I value, the answer is you. If you're asking if I love you, the answer is I DO." Got trade?

12-29-2007, 11:24 PM	#11
Starlit_Halo Banned (Ripping) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nebraska Posts: 451	I think that the Kithkin land is a piece of crap and that I'd take a Plains over it any day. Sage of Fables is meh, Wolf-Skull Shaman makes me giggle like a school girl, and Supreme Exemplar is absolutely nuts with Incandescent Soulstoke! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Thanks to PurpleD of Left Play Designs for this amazing banner! Rest In Peace PolarBearGod What I'm playing/building for casual: :symwb:Batman:symbw: :symur:Dragon's Errand:symru: :symrg:Stoking the Flames:symgr: :symwg:Midsummer Night's Dream:symgw: :symub:[EDH] Oona, Queen of the Fae:symbu: :symub:You'll be living in a van down by the River Kelpie:symbu:

12-29-2007, 11:26 PM	#12
canamrock Just Getting Started Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 28	The Sage is a neat trick... most likely at its best in a casual Extended tribal deck where it can team up with some of the Grafters for more counter spamming fun. That Shaman is some bull-on-a-stick. Grizzlies + free friends = tech. Why they reprint Elvish Warrior in the same set is beyond me. The Exemplar seems at its best with either the Horde of Notions or the Elemental Lord... that lord with some CiP Elemental out makes for a sick turn if you can flop one of these. And finally, while not super-awesome-megariffic, the Kithkin land is really nice for a White Weenie deck heavily in on the Kithkin side (auto 4-of), and there are worse things to be doing with a turn 4-5 land drop than turn it into a pseudo-man or burn-dodging pump.

12-29-2007, 11:29 PM	#14
Hunter Rumormonger Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Big Brother City Posts: 1,644	So, the Wolf-Skull is green, after all They definitly have changed their spoiler-policy.....

12-29-2007, 11:29 PM	#15
Fats McRobot Archmage Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: An insignifigant speck on a has-been planet orbitted by a cold indifferent sun. Posts: 975	Wow, Kithkin land sucks. I mean, opening a plains is almost a better pick if this thing wasn't rare. Why hello there, 15th pick. Not to say it isn't horrible. It allows nonwhite decks to splash white assuming one of their soldiers or knights or clerics also happens to be a hobbit. I want MaRo or someone to explain why that card had to be made. The other three... wow. I want to see Exemplar online in a draft. Elf might be a top pick. Its insane for constructed on either tribe, and syncs up nicely with clashes. Love the wizard's art, and I hope this means wizards will do something as a tribe this go round. __________________ After millennia of advancement in goblin military theory, Toggo VI realized that almost everyone is afraid of fire.

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