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Old 01-02-2008, 09:14 AM   #1
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Default [MOR] Negate, Disperse and Kinsbaile Cavalier (rumored)

Someone contacted me with rumored info (the wording might be off).

For what it is worth:

Two common instants:
Negate 1u (edit: now confirmed)
Counter target non-creature spell

Disperse 1u
Return target non-land permanent to its owner's hand

And a rare Kithkin Knight:
Kinsbaile Cavalier 3w
Knight creatures you control have double strike
2/2 (added in edit)

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Old 01-02-2008, 09:18 AM   #2
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Non creature version of Remove soul, a weaker boomerang, and a useless Rare knight, altough works well with changeling... Since this is not yet real, we may say that it can possibly be fake...
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The instants are nice. Boomerang -land bounce for a lightening on the colored mana requirements is nice. If that knight is a 2/2 or bigger, he is an absolute animal.
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Nothing to exciting or surprising. Negate and Disperse sure look a lot like Core Set plants.
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Meh. Whether these are fake or not isn't really much of an issue, as they're all relatively boring. Negate is horrible in Limited, and won't even make sideboards in Constructed--I find it fishy that WotC would print Negate now of all times.

I'd rather this batch were fake.

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Kinsbaile Cavalier doesn't have power/toughness, I would guess it's a 2/2.

And why are people complaining about Negate? It's a very fine spell. There are rarely decks with less than 16 non-creature spells. The time for it is a bit bad, as we're seeing much more creatures now with the Evoke mechanic and the tribal theme, bit it's by no means bad.
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Kinsbaile Cavalier + Mirror Entity =?
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Kinsbaile Cavalier + Shield of Velis Vell is just good enough IMHO.
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Reversed remove soul is pretty cool actually. Remove Soul is seeing play in standard now due to the heavy creature decks, so it seems quite possible that a card that does the opposite would see some play in formats where there are less creature decks to worry about. Splashable combo stopper. Splashable enchantment/artifact/sorcery/instant/planeswalker stopper? Seems quite good to me.
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Kinsbaile Cavalier + Mirror Entity =?
Equals big creatures with double strike, hmm mirror entity is starting to become very strong when morning tide enters the standard scene...
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If it's not fake (they seem plausible (BTW, what's Cavalier's P/T?), and Hunter is quite reliable source of rumors), then we probably see a cycle of pseudo-lords for classes unsupporter in Morningtide. We already have druids', and probably knights' "leaders", I wonder what are other classes will get them (of course it's a wild guess).
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Hoodwink was originally printed with the same intention as Disperse, but Planeswalkers make the more specific wording necessary. I like the cards, hopefully we can get more information on them soon.
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Equals big creatures with double strike, hmm mirror entity is starting to become very strong when morning tide enters the standard scene...

In a perfect world where no opponent will have a Shock or Tarfire in hand this sequence would be fun:

turn 1: Llanowar Elf
turn 2: Mirror Entity
turn 3: Kinsbaile Cavalier
turn 4: attack with 3 4/4 double strikers.
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Hoodwink was originally printed with the same intention as Disperse, but Planeswalkers make the more specific wording necessary. I like the cards, hopefully we can get more information on them soon.
Well, Hoodwink hit lands but not creatures. . .

If that knight is 3/X, I will be building knight.dec to smash kitchen table face
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Negate seems like a great spell. It's not a reverse Remove Soul, since Remove Soul hits only 1 spell type. This hits artifacts, enchantments, instants, sorceries and planeswalkers. As far as it being "narrow", how many of you maindecked Spell Snare last year/two years ago?

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